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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    I hate to say it but this thread right here- this sort of thing- is what gives Christians a bad reputation.
    This is why they're disliked by so many people.
    Not because we hate spirituality, not because we're just looking for someone to persecute and discriminate against.

    This thread. (not to mention many other threads on this forum, especially many in the abortion section).
    This is why.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I hate to say it but this thread right here- this sort of thing- is what gives Christians a bad reputation.
    This is why they're disliked by so many people.
    Not because we hate spirituality, not because we're just looking for someone to persecute and discriminate against.

    This thread. (not to mention many other threads on this forum, especially many in the abortion section).
    This is why.
    Its cause most forget that as people living in the USA the bible is nothing but a book...Compared to democratic/constitutional rights
    and thats where the issues begin, when religious values are forced upon citizens who do not wish to follow them rather the Constitution..
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No I did not. I said because it is a sin. I also said because the Bible says it is a sin.




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    But WHY is it a sin? What basic concept does it violate concerning the treatment of one person by another? Is it harmful? Exploitive? Unfair? What inherent understanding of the notion of doing unto others does homosexuality violate?

    Unless you can formulate an actual REASON why homosexuality is a sin and do so while avoiding complete sophistry, your answer only boils down to "just because".
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    But WHY is it a sin? What basic concept does it violate concerning the treatment of one person by another? Is it harmful? Exploitive? Unfair? What inherent understanding of the notion of doing unto others does homosexuality violate?

    Unless you can formulate an actual REASON why homosexuality is a sin and do so while avoiding complete sophistry, your answer only boils down to "just because".


    Yeah, if God really gave a crap about it, it would've been one of the ten commandments.
    He said those are the only rules his followers have to abide by.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    But WHY is it a sin? What basic concept does it violate concerning the treatment of one person by another? Is it harmful? Exploitive? Unfair? What inherent understanding of the notion of doing unto others does homosexuality violate?

    Unless you can formulate an actual REASON why homosexuality is a sin and do so while avoiding complete sophistry, your answer only boils down to "just because".
    Couldn't agree more. There is no reason homosexuality would be a sin. I don't believe it's a sin, and I know other Christians that don't believe it is a sin. Though unfortunately we are a minority.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Well, you know the Catholic Church, under the Roman Emperor Constantine, did a lot of creative "editing" of the bible.
    I mean, this is an historical fact. It's not even refuted by most educated bible scholars.

    The Ten commandments contain no prohibition against homosexuality or homosexual acts and neither do the 613 Mitzvot, which were the 613 laws that Moses subsequently imposed on the Israelites.
    Not one single mention of homosexuality.

    It is worth noting that Constantine had engaged in homosexual relationships himself, before he converted to Christianity.
    It is fairly likely that those few, isolated mentions of homosexuality in the bible were placed there in 325 AD, by Constantine and the Council of Nicea, for either personal or socio-political reasons.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Maybe it's a question of poo poo


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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Maybe it's a question of poo poo




    If God had a problem with poop, he wouldn't have invented it.
    Besides, male-female couples can just as easily engage in all this anal stuff he's so concerned about.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    No, you're only trying to push your morals as law, which is I think a more serious matter than merely presenting them as fact.
    100% WRONG
    my morals are NOT involved, the current laws are. Discrimination is whats involved just cause some of my morals happen to agree is meaningless has i know peole that totally are against gay marriage "personally" but understand its none of their buisness and think they should be allowed since this is AMERICA. So you misunderstood but you did.



    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Your opposition to discrimination is a moral value. Your belief that moral values shouldn't be forced on others is not only itself a moral value, it is an inherently self-contradictory moral value. By crafting law in accordance with your moral values, you are by definition forcing others to abide by them..
    my discrimination is based on LAW not morals no matter how hard you try to make it that way but its not your decision you dont get to tell me my motives or whats going on in my head lol Nice try but your still wrong.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Wow I have seen some beatings take place on here but this is one for the books. SM takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

    Lets check the counter

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