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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You have presented no evidence for your basis, therefore it is valueless... as usual. Let's see it.

    That was easy.
    My evidence is the Bible, still the hottest selling book in the world.

    That was very easy.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    In response to both SM and CC


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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    My evidence is the Bible, still the hottest selling book in the world.

    That was very easy.
    Yeah, about as easy as Creationism 101 at Weeping Shepherd Baptist High School, where the correct answer to every question on the test is "Cuz the bible sez so" or else "Goddidit".


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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    My evidence is the Bible, still the hottest selling book in the world.

    That was very easy.
    Yeah? Well, my evidence is The writings of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    Oh, sorry, it has to be a best seller? OK, then my source is Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone, which has gay characters living peacefully and happily.

    Sorry, I should be ignoring you but you're just too damn easy of a target!

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    True, but the same applies to your morals as well. Your belief that homosexuality is acceptable and that homosexual marriage is an acceptable permutation of the institution of marriage, that deserves the same recognition as the forms of marriage currently accepted in our society, is your opinion and it is not a fact for anyone who disagrees with you.
    I agree but since i havent tried to push my morals has fact the point is moot.
    I have only argued its discrimination which it is and my morals have nothing to do with that. In america i clealry understand my morals are not yours nor would i force mine on you and my morals would never be the basis or argument and never were.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm not Christian, therefiore, it is irrelevant.

    You lose again.
    Subjectivist fallacy.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It is yours, ungrounded to think that it is. Prove it with facts from science and research.
    Morality is not scientific. It doesn't have to be.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    What others? You are the only one on this thread who has accused me of trolling.



    It is not a different topic. Your OP asked for a reason for gay marriage to be stopped. I have provided one. I am on topic.

    Premise 1: No kind of marriage license should be recognized by the law
    ------Sub argument for Premise 1------
    -SubPremise 1: The law should not recognize privileges that are not available to everyone. (note that you have already agreed with this premise)
    -SubPremise 2: Any kind of marriage license is legal recognition of privileges that are only available to married individuals.
    -SubPremise 3: Not everyone is a married individual

    -.'. No kind of marriage licenses should be recognized by the law

    Premise 2: Gay marriage licenses are a kind of marriage license

    .'. Gay marriage licenses should not be recognized by the law.

    As you can see, the conclusion directly answers your original challenge in the OP, and as such is on topic. You can either try to debate the truth of my premises, or you can try to attack the validity of the logic. Your attempts to evade are transparent.

    You have claimed that gay marriage licenses should be recognized by the law. I have claimed the exact opposite, and provided a reasoned argument for why. Your attempts to run away when your own challenge is answered aren't fooling anyone.
    ignored again due to off topic trolling and repeating yourself over and over again but not changing reality and the facts. Already explained to you as to way its CLEARLY off topic and Im dont has others are actually trying to debate the OP.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Yeah, about as easy as Creationism 101 at Weeping Shepherd Baptist High School, where the correct answer to every question on the test is "Cuz the bible sez so" or else "Goddidit".

    Did you graduate from there?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Subjectivist fallacy.
    http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/ency...ivist_fallacy/

    The relativist fallacy, also known as the subjectivist fallacy, is committed, roughly speaking, when one person claims that something may be true for one person but not true for someone else. The fallacy is supposed to rest on the law of non-contradiction. The fallacy, it is said, applies only to objective facts, or what are alleged to be objective facts, rather than to facts about personal tastes or subjective experiences, and only to facts regarded in the same sense and at the same time. On this formulation, the very name "relativist fallacy" begs the question against anyone who earnestly (however mistakenly or not) holds that there are no "objective facts." So some more work has to be done, in a non-question-begging way, to make it clear wherein, exactly, the fallacy lies.

    There are at least two ways to interpret "the relativist fallacy": either as identical to relativism (generally), or as the ad hoc adoption of a relativist stance purely to defend a controversial position.

    On the one hand, those discussions of the relativist fallacy which make the fallacy out to be identical to relativism (e.g., linguistic relativism or cultural relativism) are themselves committing a commonly-identified fallacy of informal logic, namely, begging the question against an earnest, intelligent, logically-competent relativist. It is itself a fallacy to describe a controversial view as a "fallacy"--not, at least, without arguing that it is a fallacy. In any event, it will not do to argue as follows:
    bzzt. You misapplied the fallacy.
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