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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I can't believe you just asserted that morality is absolute.
    What on earth would cause you to make such an absurd statement?
    The Bible.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    The Bible.
    The Bible is, itself, inherently absurd, in the view of many.
    We do not legislate based on the Bible, as it informs only one belief system among many.
    Bible-based legislation is inherently un-American, and will not stand, even if passed.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    The Bible is, itself, inherently absurd, in the view of many.
    We do not legislate based on the Bible, as it informs only one belief system among many.
    Bible-based legislation is inherently un-American, and will not stand, even if passed.
    We do not legislate morality. All I ask is don't lie about it.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Morality is not relative; that is a liberal view and a lie.
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    yes they infact are there is no denying this, to deny it shows pure ignorance of reality

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Nature has many abnormalities, but abnormal behavior is not natural.
    so this is all you got, so i guess anything that is abnormal we should band, all you lefties out there listen up you are no longer allowed to marry or drive or vote because you are abnormal LOL

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    Heterosexuals that behave like queers during sex are also unhealthy; that does not make queer sex healthy.
    ALL sex can be deemed unhealthy, ALL sex LMAO next

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    Also, queers are more likely to engage in sex with multiple partners in unhealthy situations.
    they are? do you think that would change or not if they werent discriminated against?
    males 16 to 35 are also likely to have sex with muiltiple partners in unhealthy situations more than some others, guess there should be no sex untill you are 36 LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    That was easy to destroy your arguments in four sentences.
    problem is, that in reality you destroyed nothing and didnt refute his post in anyway has all your reasonings are easily shot down and exposed to have full of holes

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Prediction: you will troll by asking me to prove my assertions, even though you know that my arguments are true.
    dont need proof that a lie is a lie and that its not true when the facts are right here starring you in the face

    lets check the counter!

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    We do not legislate morality. All I ask is don't lie about it.
    who said we legisislate it?
    and nobody lied about it
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Morality is not relative; that is a liberal view and a lie.
    Wrong answer. Of course it is relative. The fact that you and I have differernt morals prove that.
    Debinked again, as usual.

    Nature has many abnormalities, but abnormal behavior is not natural.
    Wrong answer. Appeal to nature logical fallacy. You assume that something that is not natural is bad. Value jiudgements are valueless when trying to prove your position.
    Debunked again, as usual.

    Heterosexuals that behave like queers during sex are also unhealthy; that does not make queer sex healthy.
    Wrong answer. You obvilously do not understand anything about sexuality. unsafe sex is not about the practice but about precautions taken in regards to the practice.
    Debunked again, as usual.

    Also, queers are more likely to engage in sex with multiple partners in unhealthy situations.
    Wrong answer, but I'll give you a chance. Show some stats with links to support your position.

    That was easy to destroy your arguments in four sentences.
    Except you didn't. You just continued to demonstrate that you are ignorant on this topic. Tell us, Southern Man, how does it feel to get pwned each and every time you try to discuss this issue? Never seen you make an accurate statement, or back up one of your assertions.

    Prediction: you will troll by asking me to prove my assertions, even though you know that my arguments are true.
    Your arguments have no merit as they never do. You have only proven that you will continue to hold on to your erroneous positions regardless of what facts are thrown at you. You constant present positions that are nothing more than debunked and erroneous comments. So, since you seem to be doing that again, it is quite obvious who the troll here is: YOU.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    The Bible.
    Sorry. That is YOUR opinion and nothing more.

    Debunked again. It must suck to have this keep happening to you.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    We do not legislate morality. All I ask is don't lie about it.
    Then I would suggest that you start learning about some facts, because all you are doing is lying.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Problem is when they attempt to pass these morals on as facts, which they are not, and which they do not seem to understand is a laughable and ridiculous way to present anything.
    If all morality is composed of opinion, what is the advantage of treating one's own opinions of morality as anything but fact? Subjective or not, morality is essential to civilized society and the law must exist to enforce these subjective opinions. The only way to effectively attack another person's moral beliefs is to appeal to other, shared, moral beliefs and hope to expose an inconsistency.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Still trying huh, i love it!
    How much denial could you possible have? You seem to REALLY believe it LMAO
    Sorry the fact that marriage excisits to only certian groupd and gays are discriminated against the OP still clearly stands has ever reason so far has been found to be:

    unsound
    unreasonable
    discriminative
    illogical
    bias
    selfish
    arrogant
    hypercritical
    and/or anti-american

    Let me know when you have something on topic ill be waiting
    My argument did not fail any of your criteria and you have yet to demonstrate otherwise. Lets look at them one at a time:

    unsound - an unsound argument draws a conclusion from false premises. Here are my premises:

    Premise 1: The law should not recognize privileges that are not available to everyone. (note that you have already agreed with this premise)
    Premise 2: A marriage license is legal recognition of privileges that are only available to married individuals.
    Premise 3: Not everyone is a married individual

    Since you have already admitted to the truth of premise 1, demonstrate that premises 2 or 3 are false, or admit that the argument is sound.

    unreasonable - an unreasonable argument is one that does not use reason. My argument is reasoned syllogistically, with premises that can be either true or false, and a conclusion that is drawn necessarily as a result of the premises being true. Demonstrate otherwise or admit that the argument is reasonable.

    discriminative - My argument is predicated on the premise that the law should not recognize privileges that are not available to everyone. It is therefore not discriminative. Demonstrate how preventing the law from recognizing privileges that are not available to everyone is discriminative, or admit that the argument is non-discriminating.

    illogical - an illogical argument is one that does not use logic. My argument is reasoned syllogistically, with premises that can be either true or false, and a conclusion that is drawn necessarily as a result of the premises being true. Demonstrate otherwise or admit that it is logical.

    bias - A biased argument lends weight to an opinion based on personal benefit from a desired outcome. Both of the premises that you have yet to agree with are statements of fact, rather than opinions.
    Premise 2: A marriage license is legal recognition of privileges that are only available to married individuals.
    Premise 3: Not everyone is a married individual

    As they are not expressed opinions, they cannot be biased. They are either factually correct, or incorrect. Demonstrate otherwise or admit that the argument is unbiased.

    selfish - My argument is a series of premises, and a conclusion drawn logically from those premises. The only premise containing an opinion is the one you already agreed with. The other two are assertions of fact. They are either correct or incorrect. They cannot be selfish any more than any other statement of fact. Saying that 1+1 = 2 is not selfish, because it is simply a statement of fact. Demonstrate how stating facts and drawing conclusions from them is selfish, or admit that the argument is not selfish.

    arrogant - A series of premises followed by a conclusion drawn from those premises is not a consciousness of any kind and therefore cannot be arrogant. I might be arrogant, but I am not the argument under discussion. Demonstrate otherwise, or admit that the argument is not arrogant.

    hypercritical - A hypercritical argument makes a critique that exceeds standardized criteria to be met. For example if a flight student must maintain altitude within 50 feet, and is then criticized for not maintaining altitude within 10 feet, the instructor is being hypercritical. Demonstrate the standards and how they are exceeded, or admit that the argument is not hypercritical.

    and/or anti-american - My argument makes no mention of America one way or the other. Demonstrate otherwise or admit that it is not anti-american.

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