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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Because of the "that's how it has always been card" you nailed it. This also considers the longevity and success from culture to culture over thousands of years.
    We've had success with, and would have been absolutely fine with, walking around and riding on horses, but no, someone had to go and invent the automobile.

    OK, it's a choice? You lost me.
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    Cilogy: "In fact, I'm not even saying its right or wrong"

    no .. you can't say it is right or wrong . . .
    that is where you have to go beyond the 'opinions' of man to find an authoritive answer

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by dadman View Post
    Cilogy: "In fact, I'm not even saying its right or wrong"

    no .. you can't say it is right or wrong . . .
    that is where you have to go beyond the 'opinion's' of man to find an authoritive answer
    That's my point, we don't need an authoritative answer. Gay marriage isn't affecting anyone negatively.

    We are doing more harm preventing gay marriage than allowing it.


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    cilogy: Gay marriage isn't affecting anyone negatively

    affecting anyone isn't the issue .. God designed the family unit . . .
    he is the only one who has the authority to change the definition

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by dadman View Post
    cilogy: Gay marriage isn't affecting anyone negatively

    affecting anyone isn't the issue .. God designed the family unit . . .
    he is the only one who has the authority to change the definition
    Oh man, nevermind then.


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    . . . . . then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    We've had success with, and would have been absolutely fine with, walking around and riding on horses, but no, someone had to go and invent the automobile.
    Common, that is not the same thing and you know it. You can't compare human nature and the family to technological advances. Human nature and the nature of the human family does not change. Although the perception of such things can.

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    Whether to adopt or not.
    I thought we agreed that was OK?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by dadman View Post
    cilogy: Gay marriage isn't affecting anyone negatively

    affecting anyone isn't the issue .. God designed the family unit . . .
    he is the only one who has the authority to change the definition
    I hate to admit it because the attack dogs mite come in but, I agree 100%.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    1.)Obviously you would not be forced to accept it in your own mind. But as you yourself stated, one would be forced to accept it legally. Which I find at least somewhat unacceptable.

    And your example comparisons are not valid.
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    2.) If all legal marriages are called the same thing, it is obviously not a "different name", and quite the opposite of discrimination.

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    3.)As to the legal name usage having no effect…That is obviously BS. If the legal usage of the term “marriage” had no effect, no one would care about gay marriage.

    It is partially because people consider the very term “marriage” to be sacred that there IS such debate over it.

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    4.)The "LAW" is doing what now?

    And what are you ranting about?
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    5 WTF??? I thought I had specifically stated that I would NOT stop others from having equal rights. In fact my suggestion was one of equal rights.
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    First, this is not based on my religion, as I don't really have one.

    Second, I never suggested naming gay marriage something different, which is what you seem to think I suggested.
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    7.) There are currently two types of marriage.

    Both are intertwined to an extent, and even if you renamed the legal part, they would still be intertwined.

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    I never suggested that any religious right to marry would be effected.

    Any law doing so would quickly be struck down as unconstitutional.

    I was simply stating fact.

    I never said religion would change. Did I?

    Please point out where.
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    1.) Legal does not matter to the religion has it doesnt change anything. People already have to accept things that are legal or not illegal they dont agree with so thats pointless. Like I said theres lot of things that religions or morals arent for or are against and they are not laws or illegal LOL
    my example was very spot on Making gay marriage legal affect NO ONE in reality and is the fair and non-discriminative thing to do

    2.) oh so only NOW we are going to change the name because of gays, yeah no discrimination in that at all LMAO. Maybe if this was tried BEFORE gay marriage was an issue but its too late now

    3.) its not BS at all its FACT, people holding a word sacred is meaningless in this debate because they could still do that LMAO they hold it sacred based on RELIGION not how the state views it so their RELIGION for change there fore that sacredness wouldn't either that BS. There are many things the state views different than religion but it didnt all of a sudden become or make them UN-SACRED to religon lol like i said pure unsupported propaganda. Did the state doing divorce all of sudden make marriage un-sacred in everybody views and opinions? nothing the stat does can change the values of religion in REALITY.

    4.) you said "if a law dictates that the word "marriage", in legal usage, is redefined as including same-sex unions, it could and probably will (if such is enacted) be argued as a violation of the US constitution."

    i said the law does that now, not with gay marriage but with marriage period all it, is a contract and the sate already doesnt see the rules of marriage some religions have. So NO it will no be a violation of the constitution because the religions still get to do what they want

    5.) as long as from now on they call it a NEW name LOL

    6.) you just magically want it changed now lol it was ok all these years to be called marriage but not anymore if gays are going to be allowed to do it unless of course you have always thought this way

    7.) nope there is in fact only ONE kind of marriage recognized by state anything else above that is SECONDARY sorry they are NOT intertwined at all because only one is seen by state and religion is free to see what ever they want

    8.) you made the statement "Religious marriage is a right, as part of the right to freedom of religion." and "it’s (gay marriage) the forcing of exception through legal means that is the issue I see here"

    so if you didnt think religion would change why make that statement, with gay marriage religious marriage would still be a right and freedom of religion would still exist or were you just reminding me? sorry if i misunderstood but why make the statement

    also there still would be NO forcing of anything what so ever on religion or people
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    cilogy: Gay marriage isn't affecting anyone negatively

    affecting anyone isn't the issue .. God designed the family unit . . .
    he is the only one who has the authority to change the definition


    MAN !! make me read a freakn book . . . jeeesh !!

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    attack dogs ?? .. buncha toothless slobbering drama-queens ??
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