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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    if you read the OP it most certainly is what it is asking lol
    unless you chose not to read the op and just blindly vote
    I voted according to the question that the poll was asking. "Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Last time I checked we have adoption.
    Yes, and adopted children deserve to be in a stable home with a mother and father, not with two dads or moms.
    Then why didn't you say that in the first place?

    In that previous posts it seemed like you saying that you are against it because your religion says so, not because you personally believe it. But I guess you corrected that right?
    I guess so. Sorry if my first post sent out the wrong message.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Sure they can.

    Meanwhile, some hetero marriages can't create families, yet you seem completely unconcerned with them.
    The hetero marriages that can't create families aren't because it's naturally impossible, but because there is fertility issues with the man or woman.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post



    Actually, a lot changes for those that don't support it. It would mean that their government acknowledges and gives rights to something that they hold as sinful and immoral. Citizens would have to acknowledge gay people as married and be forced to treat them as such.

    And I am not forced to support those other sexual sins you listed, and I do not support them which is why I believe they are wrong. However, if the state formerly declared that premarital sex and masturbation is not sinful it would.

    What changes is the definition of marriage and family. All citizens would be forced to accept a union that is sinful and immoral in the eyes of the majority. You may be free to your religion, but freedom of voicing your religious opinion would be taken away if the state simply said gay marriage is OK and that everyone should deal with it.
    actually in REALITY it doesnt force them to do anything no matter how you twist it, it doesnt force YOU to accept premartial sex only YOU get to make that choice for yourself LMAO

    the government already accepts things that are sinful to MANY religons should we stop them all???? lmao of course not, sorry nothing changes, you and you religion still get to do what you want JUST LIKE NOW

    and not by any stretch of the imagination would you voicing your religious opinion be taken away, thats pure fantasy. Last I check there are still abortion rallies and people still say that is wrong, right? they still believe and teach and preach its wrong right? yes, see nothing changes

    wow if you actually believe what you are saying i guess we should just do away with religion because with or without gay marriage you already dont have freedom of religion because the government forces sin on you lol

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    ast time I checked two sperms can't fertilize.
    He didn't say "procreate", he said create. A family is created just by the union of two people. The two homosexuals, once they married, automatically created a family. Adopting kids can further create more family. It is narrow minded to limit families to an man and a woman.

    I am against it personally because my religion is part of who I am and what I believe. Personally I am a Christian and I believe it's wrong because God is infinitely wiser than me, and He says it's wrong. My beliefs are not separate from my religion because my religion is part of who I am.
    I understand, and also honestly saddened to hear people express intolerance due to a belief in religion.

    If God in His wisdom told me to hate gays then I would. But God says the opposite. So theoretically your question is pointless.
    It was not pointless. The point was will you do something like that if your god told you to. You said that you would. That is horrible and perfectly makes his point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
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    Yes, and adopted children deserve to be in a stable home with a mother and father, not with two dads or moms.

    nothing more than opinion and the fact is there are stable homes right now with same sex parents
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The hetero marriages that can't create families aren't because it's naturally impossible, but because there is fertility issues with the man or woman.
    I'd say a fertility issue is "naturally impossible." Especially for women after menopause, which is normal and natural and not a disorder.

    Yet you have no problem with letting old ladies marry.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yes, and adopted children deserve to be in a stable home with a mother and father, not with two dads or moms.
    They deserve loving and supportive care givers, that is what they deserve. A couple of the best parents that I know are gay men and their son is hetero and they are happy simply because they have a son and they are a loving family...

    The hetero marriages that can't create families aren't because it's naturally impossible, but because there is fertility issues with the man or woman.
    Fertility issues ARE naturally impossible
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    sorry guys and girls gotta pick up my daughter from dance but ill be back

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Yes, and adopted children deserve to be in a stable home with a mother and father, not with two dads or moms.
    Who says? Does Christianity say this too? That's mostly opinion.

    You know, single parents adopt children and raise them successfully.

    Personally I know of one gay couple who have a stable family with two kids, I'm sure there are others. But that's my opinion, haven't found any facts to back that up yet.


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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    [quote=digsbe;1058730584]I think it's perfectly fine to stop gay marriage and I would personally vote to prevent homosexual marriages (my state has already legally defined by a vote that marriage is only between one man and one woman).
    1. Because of my religious convictions I believe homosexuality is a sin

    1st Amendment prevents the government from favoring one religion over another. If the law is passed on religious then it is favoring one religious belief over another, thus unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    2. Homosexual marriages cannot create families
    Neither can infertile couples. What about the elderly? Besides with modern medicine and adoption a same sex couple can form a family as well as a heterosexual one.




    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Others have already polled Americans on the issue. [url[http://www.gallup.com/poll/118378/majority-americans-continue-oppose-gay-marriage.aspx[/url]
    57% oppose gay marriage and 40% support it according to a gallup poll. Plus if you look at state elections you will see that the majority within states that had the issue voted on didn't support gay marriage either. I wouldn't really take candid internet polls as research.

    Majorities do not make something correct.

    Actually I am part of the majority that oppose homosexual marriages. I also believe my reasons for opposing it are valid and logical. Wouldn't it be discrimination against those that don't support it to force them to extend marital rights to a union that they hold as being sinful?
    By this logic the majority of Whites that supported Jim Crow were being discriminated against when it was overturned.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    1st Amendment prevents the government from favoring one religion over another. If the law is passed on religious then it is favoring one religious belief over another, thus unconstitutional
    The law was passed by a simple vote of the people. The state Constitution was amended to state what marriage is. Had nothing to do with being a religious law or supporting any particular religion in this case and any of the others I know of.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    By this logic the majority of Whites that supported Jim Crow were being discriminated against when it was overturned.
    Discrimination' is nothing more than a sociological construct solely by class or category. Discrimination is the actual behavior toward another group.

    So yes it would be, and it was.

    Somehow discrimination has come to be a derogatory term when it is not.

    Females are discriminated against in the military for certain jobs. People are discriminated against because of physical ability. People are discriminated against because of a lack of education.

    None of these are necessarily wrong or evil. It is just a term meaning denied by class or category.
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