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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    An irrelevant one.
    Nope. You brought up biology. I told you the facts of our population stability, the ability to have kids without a "father", and the vast number of orphans. So since it was you who brought up biology, it's not irrelevant. In fact, it had demonstrated what you claimed to have based your decision on to be completely irrelevant and no longer valid in the modern era.

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    No it's a fact.
    I'm not the one scraping together archaic arguments which hold no water in the modern age to keep discrimination against a particular sect of society intact.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope. You brought up biology. I told you the facts of our population stability, the ability to have kids without a "father", and the vast number of orphans. So since it was you who brought up biology, it's not irrelevant. In fact, it had demonstrated what you claimed to have based your decision on to be completely irrelevant and no longer valid in the modern era.
    I brought it up for a completely different reason. You just decided it was for your reasoning. So again nope.

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    I'm not the one scraping together archaic arguments which hold no water in the modern age to keep discrimination against a particular sect of society intact.
    What ever you say.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I brought it up for a completely different reason. You just decided it was for your reasoning. So again nope.
    You're being very inconsistent. You brought it up, I shot it down, and now you're desperately trying to make it seem like it was no big deal. Pathetic.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You're being very inconsistent. You brought it up, I shot it down, and now you're desperately trying to make it seem like it was no big deal. Pathetic.
    I brought it up because it is the primary reasoning behind the make up of the family. You did not shoot down anything. What you have shown is why our society is crumbling around us.

    When the importance of the family, or the mother and father are regulated to nothing by science, our society will slowly eat itself alive with moral decay etc. That is exactly what is happening now.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    My reasoning is sound.

    Sound:

    1.free from injury, damage, defect, disease, etc.; in good condition; healthy; robust: a sound heart; a sound mind.
    2.financially strong, secure, or reliable: a sound business; sound investments.
    3.competent, sensible, or valid: sound judgment.
    4.having no defect as to truth, justice, wisdom, or reason: sound advice.
    5.of substantial or enduring character: sound moral values.
    6.following in a systematic pattern without any apparent defect in logic: sound reasoning.


    My reasoning is logical:

    1.Of, relating to, in accordance with, or of the nature of logic.

    2.Based on earlier or otherwise known statements, events, or conditions; reasonable: Rain was a logical expectation, given the time of year.

    3.Reasoning or capable of reasoning in a clear and consistent manner.


    Everyones reasoning is biased.

    My reasoning is selfish as is everyone else's:

    1.devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.

    2.characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.


    My reasoning is not arrogant.

    1.making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud: an arrogant public official.

    2.characterized by or proceeding from arrogance: arrogant claims.


    It's funny that your argument actually fits the definition of arrogance!

    My reasoning is most definitly not hypictitical:

    1.a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

    2.a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.


    As for non-American...

    What about my comment is un-American? Is it because you know the founders intentions so well? You mentioned this in an earlier post. Well lets see...

    1. the founding fathers kept slaves
    2. they denied women, the poor and racial minorities equal citizenship
    3. they tolerated and financed the massacre of the Native Americans
    4. they occasionally engaged in piracy off the Eastern Seaboard

    Thomas Jefferson wrote in Virginia law that homosexuals should be castrated.

    So don't give me that un-American bull****.

    Redefining marriage has nothing to do with any of the bull**** you spouted.
    LMAO wow what a waste of a post but its still not sound or logical and it is arrogant and it is also hypocritical but you believe what you want, I like how you provided proof in your very own post. Like I said Im still waiting for anybody to come up with one your not anybody else has yet no matter how much you call it BS lol
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No it would not. It would not be a marriage, it would be a civil union.

    Sorry you are not getting any legitimacy from me.



    How would giving them equal protection under the law be discriminatory? That's bull**** and you know it.
    it would be the same I dont need you legitimacy for marriage LMAO thats already true lol

    it can EASILY be discrimination simply by not calling it the same and thats a fact and YOU know it, thats not even up for debate.

    I like using this funny EXTREME example.
    Why yes Mr Obama you did get elected president BUT were not going to call you president were going to call you something else, it will have all the same powers as president but we cant call you that but when the ext guy that think fits are made up standards gets elected we will go back to calling him president. Now yes this is just a humor example but anybody with sense can clearly see how thats discrimination LOL Like I said thats not even up for debate
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I was an atheist.



    It has nothing to do with bigotry at all. It has to do with 2 male or females don't make a marriage no matter how you slice it. Never did and it never will.

    You can believe what you want, but everyone has bigotry's of some type. I think yours are much worse than mine.
    100% false qnd a lie, same sex marriage has been around for close to 2000 years
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    100% false qnd a lie, same sex marriage has been around for close to 2000 years
    I am talking about in the US. Next time read the lead up before jumping to false conclusions.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    it would be the same I dont need you legitimacy for marriage LMAO thats already true lol
    Not according to the law it's not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    it can EASILY be discrimination simply by not calling it the same and thats a fact and YOU know it, thats not even up for debate.
    Yes it is. It is part of the entire picture. You can deny it if you want but you want it to legitimize homosexuality.

    You and people like you don't give a rats ass about the benefits or the family.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    I like using this funny EXTREME example.
    Why yes Mr Obama you did get elected president BUT were not going to call you president were going to call you something else, it will have all the same powers as president but we cant call you that but when the ext guy that think fits are made up standards gets elected we will go back to calling him president. Now yes this is just a humor example but anybody with sense can clearly see how thats discrimination LOL Like I said thats not even up for debate
    Nice fallacy.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    LMAO wow what a waste of a post but its still not sound or logical and it is arrogant and it is also hypocritical but you believe what you want, I like how you provided proof in your very own post. Like I said Im still waiting for anybody to come up with one your not anybody else has yet no matter how much you call it BS lol
    I proved nothing in my argument is anything like what you are trying to say it is.

    Fact is you are guilty of all of that and more.

    Your lack of any decent response pretty much spells that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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