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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Religion isn't justifiable excuse. Everything is based on the rights of the individual. Not religious arguments which can change between gods and people.
    Religion is a perfectly acceptable reason to cast a vote in any direction. There is no separation of church and people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Adultery, BTW, is not illegal.
    It is grounds for a civil lawsuit and a Court Martial, so yes adultery is illegal.
    Last edited by Jerry; 05-03-10 at 01:31 PM.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, this is a Republic, not a direct democracy. Thus you cannot infringe upon the rights of others,
    What right is being infringed?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    If everything was based on the rights of the individual, drugs would be legal without a prescription. So that's bunk.
    The drug laws should be reverted back to what they were. It's the rights and liberties of the individual which are important. Which are the foundation of the government and the reason we took arms against the British. It is in that light which we must work.

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    And yet it is looked down upon by most.
    Doesn't matter, it's still not illegal.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It is grounds for a civil lawsuit and a Court Martial, so yes adultery is illegal.
    No, it's not illegal. It's grounds for violation of contract, yes. But it is not illegal. The use of it to establish breech of contract is separate from its criminal nature; and there is no criminal nature to adultery.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    What right is being infringed?
    The right to contract.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, this is a Republic, not a direct democracy. Thus you cannot infringe upon the rights of others, no matter how much you vote.
    Obviously you can and it is not considered infringing on anyones rights as it has already been done in the case of gay marriage. In fact people have voted and repealed such laws.

    So again you are wrong.

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    Wrong. You don't like the never ending pursuit of liberty, you can get out or take a bullet.
    Already been there. 12 years of it. What have you done for your country?

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    The choice is yours. But if you're going to stand in the way of freedom and liberty you should prepare for the possibility of some patriot taking you out. Treason and tyranny doesn't sit well for most in this country.
    Oh no! I am being threatened with revolution!
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The drug laws should be reverted back to what they were. It's the rights and liberties of the individual which are important. Which are the foundation of the government and the reason we took arms against the British. It is in that light which we must work.
    And yet it's not happening. So again you are screaming at the air.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Doesn't matter, it's still not illegal.
    So? Their are consequences. Does not matter if they are criminal in nature.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, it's not illegal. It's grounds for violation of contract, yes. But it is not illegal. The use of it to establish breech of contract is separate from its criminal nature; and there is no criminal nature to adultery.
    Violating Criminal law is not the sole item which qualifies an act as "illegal"

    If I went out to the bar this evening and hooked up with someone, I would be committing a criminal act and could face a Court Martial as I am still legally married, so yes there absolutely is a criminal nature to adultery.
    Last edited by Jerry; 05-03-10 at 01:41 PM.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We heteros don't need any more help ****ing up marriage, so unless gays are part of the solution, they are part of the problem.
    I don't even know what that means? To what problem are you referring? And in what ways are gay people part of it? What solution are you looking for?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    A specific marriage may not have a religious component, but marriage as an institution retains a strong religious element.
    Not for me it doesn't...

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