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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You just moved the goal posts. There is a difference between something being scientifically legitimate, and something that society will accept as legitimate. As for the former, this has been proven, both in the case of homosexuality and GM. As for the latter, society does not always base it's decisions on science alone. Morality, perception, societal needs, and beliefs come into play. So, you are addressing two different concepts.
    You just said: Since there is no conclusive proof of the causation of sexual orientation, the legitimacy of a sexual orientation cannot be scientifically based on genetics, biology, or biochemistry. Therefore, to scientifically legitimatize either or each, another foundation must be used. And then said the above. Is there, or is there not, Conclusive proof, scientifically?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I don't agree with this. I've worked with lots of kids who identified sexual attractions quite a bit earlier than puberty. It may not be mature sexual attractions in the sense that adults have, but there is literature that suggests that children do have sexual thoughts/attractions.
    Ok, but in kindergarten? Age 5?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    I got my first kiss around then.... (with a girl :P)

    Not that that has anything to do with this.

    The point is Im essentially arguing against the notion that people cant be 'born' gay as far as our understanding goes.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It not being a disorder doesn't make it not a choice.
    Why does it matter either way if it is a choice? Religion is a choice, and we still protect religious people's right to marry, even outside their religion.

    Of course, I believe it isn't a choice, just from my own experience. I am heterosexual. I know this because I was never sexually attracted to women, only men. I will on occasion say a woman is pretty or is a good looking woman, but women don't arouse me the way some men do. In fact, some men don't arouse me. I think very little about attraction is a choice. Even if it is caused more by nurture, it doesn't make it wrong. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual, just like there is nothing wrong with being attracted to men with short hair or girls with big hips. The only time attractions are wrong is when those attractions cause harm to someone (or in the case of beastiality, to something). Perceived harm to morality is not real harm. There is no proof that homosexuality causes harm to anyone. Provide proof of harm to people and/or society that is exclusively caused by homosexual relationships, and then you might have a case against homosexual relationships.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    For the most part, people on both sides of this issue are using half truths and assumptions to support their stance. The reality is some are for and some are against. Using science to justify is folly, as the real issue at hand is society's right in judging what it considers acceptable. Just as many Christians selectively follow the Bible, many activists selectively follow science.
    actually the reality is that there are like 5-6 people against it (as in think its right to stop it, not just believeing or thiking its wrong) and there reasons have had holes shot in them each time.
    PURE STUPIDITY 1.) Glenn Beck doesnt lie. 2.) Obama is Jesus like 3.) Sara Palin is so smart & shes a great speaker. 4.) Obama does just about everything perfect. 5.) Fox doesn' t lean right 6.) Pro-Choice is no different than Pro-Slavery 7.) MSNBC doesn't lean left. 8.) What TSA does is no different than sexual assault & child porn.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    And why would you be in favour of freedom, rights and equality?
    why wouldnt I, im in favor of it becasue in my opinion its the heart of america
    PURE STUPIDITY 1.) Glenn Beck doesnt lie. 2.) Obama is Jesus like 3.) Sara Palin is so smart & shes a great speaker. 4.) Obama does just about everything perfect. 5.) Fox doesn' t lean right 6.) Pro-Choice is no different than Pro-Slavery 7.) MSNBC doesn't lean left. 8.) What TSA does is no different than sexual assault & child porn.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Yes. Marriage is only between a man and a woman. I think that gay couples can obtain union, but I think the word marriage is not appropiate.

    However, I can't tolerate how governments and NGOs have spent so much time debating this subject while there are millions of blind and deaf people who require more help from the society than homosexuals.
    Obama is a fail...

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomiarias View Post
    Yes. Marriage is only between a man and a woman.
    opinion and a false opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomiarias View Post
    I think that gay couples can obtain union, but I think the word marriage is not appropiate.
    discrimination for the first part and opinion for the second part

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomiarias View Post
    However, I can't tolerate how governments and NGOs have spent so much time debating this subject while there are millions of blind and deaf people who require more help from the society than homosexuals
    nothing more than appeal to emotion
    PURE STUPIDITY 1.) Glenn Beck doesnt lie. 2.) Obama is Jesus like 3.) Sara Palin is so smart & shes a great speaker. 4.) Obama does just about everything perfect. 5.) Fox doesn' t lean right 6.) Pro-Choice is no different than Pro-Slavery 7.) MSNBC doesn't lean left. 8.) What TSA does is no different than sexual assault & child porn.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomiarias View Post
    Yes. Marriage is only between a man and a woman. I think that gay couples can obtain union, but I think the word marriage is not appropriate.

    However, I can't tolerate how governments and NGOs have spent so much time debating this subject while there are millions of blind and deaf people who require more help from the society than homosexuals.
    Amen to that.
    The people have spoken....no to homosexual marriage.
    Lets put this one to bed, its had more than enough air time.
    Those with real afflictions need our attention; those with anger management; the bi-polar, the criminals - they are the ones who need help, and we all do as we are chosen to help others.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Amen to that.
    The people have spoken....no to homosexual marriage.
    Lets put this one to bed, its had more than enough air time.
    Those with real afflictions need our attention; those with anger management; the bi-polar, the criminals - they are the ones who need help, and we all do as we are chosen to help others.
    so lets give extra help and attention to other groups while discriminating against another that doesnt currently have equal, got it
    PURE STUPIDITY 1.) Glenn Beck doesnt lie. 2.) Obama is Jesus like 3.) Sara Palin is so smart & shes a great speaker. 4.) Obama does just about everything perfect. 5.) Fox doesn' t lean right 6.) Pro-Choice is no different than Pro-Slavery 7.) MSNBC doesn't lean left. 8.) What TSA does is no different than sexual assault & child porn.

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