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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastor View Post
    Gee, I'm totally lost for an answer, Mac.
    Do you react this way every time someone holds a differing opinion?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Do you react this way every time someone holds a differing opinion?
    No, only when they have no facts to back it up, misrepresent themselves, try to pretend that they're being pragmatic when they're actually mysogynistic and xenophobic, and waste everyone's time by portraying themselves as scholarly when they're actually idealogues with a very expensive thesaurus.

    Something about integrity... I guess it just matters to me.

    I don't mind if you're the kind of person you turned out to be. I do mind if you blatantly pretend to be something other than that. If you honestly believed in your stance based on the merits of your stance, you wouldn't feel the need to lie about it and portray yourself as something else.

    People don't lie when they think they're justified.


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    I'm not a bigot, I'm not sexist, and I'm not xenophobic. And, what have I lied about?
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    No, it will harm society. Just as women's lib has.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastor View Post
    No, only when they have no facts to back it up, misrepresent themselves, try to pretend that they're being pragmatic when they're actually mysogynistic and xenophobic, and waste everyone's time by portraying themselves as scholarly when they're actually idealogues with a very expensive thesaurus.

    Something about integrity... I guess it just matters to me.

    I don't mind if you're the kind of person you turned out to be. I do mind if you blatantly pretend to be something other than that. If you honestly believed in your stance based on the merits of your stance, you wouldn't feel the need to lie about it and portray yourself as something else.

    People don't lie when they think they're justified.
    There you go calling me names again. What exactly have I lied about? Apparently you're a bit miffed about the women's lib statement...like i said earlier, I don't feel that women are inferior to men. However, the women's lib movement has certainly had negative impacts on our society. An inability to see the whole picture on your part doesn't make me a bigot, misogynistic, or xenophobic.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    First, who do you think pays for my kid to go to school?
    It depends on what school they go to. Most likely some federal money goes to that school so we all do.

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    Second, matters of sexuality shouldn't be taught at all in school. It's simply not their business.
    Are you saying that marriage shouldn't be discussed at all?

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    Third, you have no more right to decide what is appropriate to be taught to my children than I do to yours, if you had them.
    What if I am on the school board that sets the curriculum?
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It depends on what school they go to. Most likely some federal money goes to that school so we all do.



    Are you saying that marriage shouldn't be discussed at all?



    What if I am on the school board that sets the curriculum?
    no federal or state money goes to my child's school.
    no.
    You're not.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, since you got me to answer your question and then went back afterwards and edited your post, I'll simply say this: It would be discrimination if it were based on something the person had no control over. I don't believe that to be the case regarding homosexuality. Therefore, it's not discrimination. As to your last statement, the same could be said for anyone else's positions here.
    Are you saying that it's not possible to discriminate against religion?
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Are you saying that it's not possible to discriminate against religion?
    No, I'm not saying that.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, I'm not saying that.
    But you said: "It would be discrimination if it were based on something the person had no control over."

    You have control over your religion.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    But you said: "It would be discrimination if it were based on something the person had no control over."

    You have control over your religion.
    Yes you do. That's one of the things that keeps me re-evaluating my position on this issue.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    no federal or state money goes to my child's school.
    no.
    You're not.
    How is gay marriage a "matter of sexuality" but hetero marriage isn't?
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