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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No, it may take much longer than you think.
    Not if my generation has anything to say about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweEt Mauritius View Post
    Good point, but I personally trust someone who has studied the Bible and its historical context more than my own personal interpretation. If you don't, that's fine, but I was just giving you an example of other interpretations from someone who, biased or not, knows what they're talking about. And I honestly haven't read anything else on the site, I did a Google search and found that article, which is thoughtfully and intelligently written.
    Thoughtful and intelligent is often biased and incorrect. I am well versed in the Bible and it's history. I must admit I am weak on the Catholic side of things though. I think it was Tucker who brutalized me about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by sweEt Mauritius View Post
    I mean, for me, I think that makes perfect sense. I think people were ignorant of the concept of sexual orientation and homosexuality, so by default their interpretation of what is "natural" is wrong in my opinion. I guess they didn't observe the hundreds of animal species who engage in homosexual behavior either. That's the epitome of natural in my opinion. If you don't agree, that's fine. But that demonstrates again why a separation of church and state is so necessary, so that people like you and I are free to practice our different interpretations.
    Well I can agree to disagree as your opinion in this case has no more weight than my own.

    Again this issue has nothing to do with separation of church and state.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    How in the hell does this equal discrimination?As long as those “civil unions” are made available in a fair manner by the government.
    pretty easy, now im not gay so i admit im guessing but it seems safe to say the argument can be made because of one simple question? WHY are we changing it?
    and how do you prove its not BECAUSE of gays?

    Ive used this extreme example before just to make a point but what if someone thought the word president was sacred? and blacks couldnt be associated with the word, so when Obama won we changed the word to something DIFFERENT and NEW, like US CEO??


    now of course he has all the same power BUT we just cant call him president
    Would this be right, would/could no one argue discrimination?

    lol of course my example is a stretch and silly but im sure you get the point, what if Hilary won and we did the same thing because she was a woman? or apply my example to ANY title

    again I myself dont see it being a HUGE deal since im not gay and i would just rather everybody have their equal rights but at the same time anyone gay who said thats wrong and unfair and unjust and discrimination I could certainly see their point.

    Hell based on ANYTHING if you changed the name based on the person or group at hand it seems wrong. I coach Girls Fast pitch softball and what if i told all of them they are just softball players because girls cant be athletes per my beliefs? how well do you think that would go over with women. While im free to THINK so im guessing it wouldnt go over well and i probably wouldnt be coach anymore if that statement got out. And that example is just me SAYING what I believe, i have no real power to say they are not athletes, mean while a few people here want to force people not to call them something. Now this is just filler talk and a little laft field to the debate but can you see how it could insult people and they could claim discrimination?

    IMO you would have to prove the name change had nothing to do with gays and that seems impossible and unreasonable and well, not true
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Not if my generation has anything to say about that
    We will kill them off with nuclear weapons before that happens.

    Last thing we need is liberal hippies taking over the world.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Ok I am getting pretty sick of this debate.

    In the end yes it is my right to try and stop it, so to bad for you. J/K

    I am certain it will come to pass some day, but not today.

    God bless you all, and have fun.
    agreed you have the right and nobody is debating THAT right but thanks for telling us
    god bless you also
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    We will kill them off with nuclear weapons before that happens.

    Last thing we need is liberal hippies taking over the world.
    Young people today are less "liberal" than either their parents' or grandparents' generations.
    Studies indicate that today's young people are the most conservative generation since the 1950s.
    But their attitude toward gay marriage is an exception, for whatever reason; possibly the fact that the vast majority of them grew up actually knowing openly gay people, unlike previous generations.
    Overwhelmingly, this new generation of young adults believes gay marriage should be legalized.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I can sum this whole thing up for you…
    You misunderstood what Goshin said. Then you erroneously tried to say he said something he did not.

    This is now off topic and a waist of space as I have already shown you were wrong.

    End of story.

    Have a good night.
    "translation: I will STILL not answer your questions and will dodge them all because I cant answer them, i will continue to ASSUME you misunderstood and IGNORE that whether my assumption was right or wrong the point he was making was MEANINGLESS to the debate because that will kill my argument.

    Then ill just say i showed you were wrong even though i have not in reality

    Now I will run away "


    thanks, i totally get in now, good night
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by somepeoplesay View Post
    I'm sorry but how is this NOT a civil rights issue? You are talking about a group of people who are being discriminated against for an INHERIT trait (I don't care what conservative propaganda says, when you find homosexuality in 400+ species of animals that seems pretty natural to me). This is absolutely a civil rights issue, just like african americans were discriminated against for something they couldn't control (skin color), homosexuals are being discriminated against for being born gay.
    thats simple, because certain people wont let something like facts and logic get in the way of a otherwise perfectly legimate argument
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Young people today are less "liberal" than either their parents' or grandparents' generations.
    Studies indicate that today's young people are the most conservative generation since the 1950s.
    But their attitude toward gay marriage is an exception, for whatever reason; possibly the fact that the vast majority of them grew up actually knowing openly gay people, unlike previous generations.
    Overwhelmingly, this new generation of young adults believes gay marriage should be legalized.
    Yep, its one of the reasons im a centrist/independant. While i agree with certain things on both sides in todays disturbingly counter productive partasin politics even if i wanted to be on the right or left (what ever that means currently) I couldnt, especially on the right because they have so many sub groups that they force people out.

    on gay marriage I get called a lefty and liberal
    on abortion I get called a lefty and liberal
    on guns i get called a righty and conservative
    on religion Ive been called both
    on business, capitalism been called both

    i find it funny that people want you to fit into such a tight little box, thats just not reality nor is it american
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Young people today are less "liberal" than either their parents' or grandparents' generations.
    Studies indicate that today's young people are the most conservative generation since the 1950s.
    But their attitude toward gay marriage is an exception, for whatever reason; possibly the fact that the vast majority of them grew up actually knowing openly gay people, unlike previous generations.
    Overwhelmingly, this new generation of young adults believes gay marriage should be legalized.
    It was a joke.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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