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  • America is becoming more and more racist

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  • America isn't becoming any more racist but racists in America are becoming more and more vocal

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    Re: Racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    How utterly naive. How about the fact that a Black man who commits the same crime as a white man gets on average a six month longer sentence? Not to mention the racial makeup of the prison population. And don't even get me started on the racist death penalty. You want examples of institutionalized racism? It's called the criminal justice system.


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    Re: Racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    How utterly naive. How about the fact that a Black man who commits the same crime as a white man gets on average a six month longer sentence? Not to mention the racial makeup of the prison population. And don't even get me started on the racist death penalty. You want examples of institutionalized racism? It's called the criminal justice system.

    Oh lord, not this "black man sentence longer" **** again.

    Does your little data that you used to make this comment take into consideration the past criminal conviction record of both individuals as well?

    In most places in the world, there are levels of sentencing depending on how many prior convictions a person has had. Your white and black man may have committed the same crime, but there are a lot of factors which may determine the length of the sentence.

    Those are:

    1. Sentencing Level (prior conviction record).
    2. Mitigating circumstances.
    3. Aggravating factors.

    Unless you can show me that said black and white man had the EXACT same of all of these, then blow off with your crybaby longer sentencing crap, im tired of hearing these generalizations from people who skew numbers to get the desired result.
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    Re: Racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post


    Stupid cops, always keepin tha bruthas down!
    Laugh it up. This country locks up Black men at a rate 5.8 times higher than South Africa under apartheid. But you're all correct, it's BLACK racism that is out of control in our society.
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    Re: Racism in America


    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    Laugh it up. This country locks up Black men at a rate 5.8 times higher than South Africa under apartheid. But you're all correct, it's BLACK racism that is out of control in our society.



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    Re: Racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post


    Are they all innocent?
    Of course not. That is also irrelevant. Black offenders do get harsher sentiences and are more likely to be locked up compared to white perpetrators who get house arrest and probation.

    PS Cain actually made some good points. I don't think it is overwhelmingly racist now days. Allot more plays into it than just race.
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    Re: Racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    Laugh it up. This country locks up Black men at a rate 5.8 times higher than South Africa under apartheid. But you're all correct, it's BLACK racism that is out of control in our society.
    Black men offend at a rate far higher than any other population group in the U.S. (followed closely by Latino men). It's funny how posts like yours always seem to ignore that part of the equation.

    You know how fewer black men could get locked up? They could stop committing crimes.

    *Having said this, I still believe that black men face incredibly disparate treatment in America than whites do, generally, in society, and are more likely to experience poverty and social dysfunction as children, which plays a role in offending.
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    Re: Racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Oh lord, not this "black man sentence longer" **** again.

    Does your little data that you used to make this comment take into consideration the past criminal conviction record of both individuals as well?

    In most places in the world, there are levels of sentencing depending on how many prior convictions a person has had. Your white and black man may have committed the same crime, but there are a lot of factors which may determine the length of the sentence.

    Those are:

    1. Sentencing Level (prior conviction record).
    2. Mitigating circumstances.
    3. Aggravating factors.

    Unless you can show me that said black and white man had the EXACT same of all of these, then blow off with your crybaby longer sentencing crap, im tired of hearing these generalizations from people who skew numbers to get the desired result.
    I have often seen educated white men get longer sentences under the assumption that "they knew better"

    Federal sentencing guidelines are pretty even handed for the same offense level



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    Re: Racism in America

    There is still some equalization that needs to occur in federal sentencing for drug crimes. For instance, treating crack offenses differently than powder cocaine offenses.

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    Re: Racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    Laugh it up. This country locks up Black men at a rate 5.8 times higher than South Africa under apartheid. But you're all correct, it's BLACK racism that is out of control in our society.
    Blacks are more likely to rob, rape or murder a white than the other way around. I don't have current statistics but in recent memory, one year featured over 1000 white women raped by blacks and less than 40 black women raped by whites.

    interestingly that stuff is never mentioned when the left screams about hate crimes. We all know about those three rednecked racists who dragged that black man to death or the schmucks who beat a gay Matthew Shepherd to death but horrendous black on white crimes (one in tennessee made even hardened criminal investigators sick) rarely get any press.

    Is it due to the liberal racism of figuring when whites do it it is worse because they are expected to be "more civilized"

    (sort of like american liberals damning South African fascist racists while excusing the far worse genocidal black dicatators like Amin and Macias)



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    Re: Racism in America

    The racists in America are becoming more vocal.

    But the Democrats still have the right to do that as much as they want. Some of us, who aren't Democrats, still support the First Amendment.

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