View Poll Results: Should the U.S. have a national identity card?

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  • Yes, it makes perfect sense. Screening for legal residence could be done with other police stops

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  • They already make you show ID and proof of insurance, it might be okay

    1 2.86%
  • As long as minorities aren't specifically targeted, it's fine

    1 2.86%
  • I don't like the idea, it makes me uncomfortable

    4 11.43%
  • Sounds like police state tactics to me.

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Thread: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    No. I have enough government in my life. They already have a social security card, drivers license and if you can't drive state ID.

    Hell no.
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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    "E. A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WITHOUT A WARRANT, MAY ARREST A PERSON IF THE OFFICER HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON HAS COMMITTED ANY PUBLIC OFFENSE THAT MAKES THE PERSON REMOVABLE FROM THE UNITED STATES."

    "Probable cause" sounds too broad to me.
    IN other words there is nothing to support what you claim.
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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    IN other words there is nothing to support what you claim.
    IN other words, you disagree and you dismiss my claim even though no one knows how this act will turn out. I'm not the only one thinking this act could lead to discrimination. You asked me a question and I answered with my honest opinion.

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    IN other words, you disagree and you dismiss my claim even though no one knows how this act will turn out.
    Its not a matter of disagreeing with you.It is a fact that you have nothing to back up your claim they will only require people who LOOK illegal to show papers or an ID.

    I'm not the only one thinking this act could lead to discrimination.
    Thinking and claiming are two different things. Basically you as well as most pro-illegals are claiming racial profiling even though it is plain as day in the bill that there is none. Is seriously doubt you people actually believe that the new Arizona anti-illegal immigration law supports racial profiling. Pro-illegals do not have a leg to stand on in the illegal immigration debate so they have to resort lies of racism and racial profiling and nazi comparisons.



    You asked me a question and I answered with my honest opinion.
    Wouldn't honesty require telling the truth? How is it honest to basically repeat the same pro-Illegals lie of racial profiling?
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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Thinking and claiming are two different things. Basically you as well as most pro-illegals are claiming racial profiling even though it is plain as day in the bill that there is none. Is seriously doubt you people actually believe that the new Arizona anti-illegal immigration law supports racial profiling. Pro-illegals do not have a leg to stand on in the illegal immigration debate so they have to resort lies of racism and racial profiling and nazi comparisons.
    I have an idea... how about you profile me? Oh wait, you just did. I'm not pro-illegal. I'm anti-discrimination... in this case, towards people who ARE in the country legally but look like, act like or sound like they are in the country illegally. Tell me, how do you tell an illegal from a legal resident? This is why I said the police should require EVERYONE to show proof of a legal status if they are stopped for a legitimate reason, even if they are most likely a legal citizens.



    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Wouldn't honesty require telling the truth? How is it honest to basically repeat the same pro-Illegals lie of racial profiling?
    Last edited by Jucon; 04-29-10 at 02:05 AM.

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    One reason I'm not necessarily for the illegal immigration act in Arizona is because it sounds like they will only require people who LOOK illegal to show papers or an ID.

    I'd rather they asked EVERYONE, no matter their ethnicity. That gets rid of the profiling issue.

    As far as a national ID card, I wouldn't be against it. Yes, we have state ID cards... but how could a police office from, say Arizona be able to tell if a Drivers License from Florida is valid? Especially if they haven't seen one before.
    Most of the the people in Arizona who are illegal, "look" (i.e., Mexican) illegal.
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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    I think a nice 30-character alphanumeric tattoo inside the right forearm instead of a national identity card.

    That and a computer chip placed in a hard to get place, of course a full set of fingerprints and a blood sample so they can catalog your DNA.

    That combination should do the trick.
    Anyone caught altering the tattoo or chip would be subject to imprisonment.
    Why? Tampering with government property.

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    There's a lot of talk, especially with the Arizona controversy, about illegal immigration and enforcement of immigration laws, and how to do so without targeting people of Hispanic appearance.

    One solution would be a national identity card. If every person stopped by the police had one, and was required to show it, then legal residence in the U.S. could be verified with a simple traffic stop, or domestic violence police call.

    Suspects are already required to give ID, why not have people be required to have a National ID card?

    What do you think?
    I do already - it's my Military ID, it's government property and contains all my personal information - even more than what's on a Driver's License.

    I don't believe that everyone should be issued something of the sort by the government - but I do feel that state systems should be interconnected and that we should do away with social security numbers and rely on finger print matching instead.

    In the government's attempt to keep up with everyone they've caused a safety issue (ID Theft, among other things) - yet have done nothing to solve the problem they've fueled.
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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I think a nice 30-character alphanumeric tattoo inside the right forearm instead of a national identity card.

    That and a computer chip placed in a hard to get place, of course a full set of fingerprints and a blood sample so they can catalog your DNA.

    That combination should do the trick.
    Anyone caught altering the tattoo or chip would be subject to imprisonment.
    Why? Tampering with government property.

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    Are you being serious? I don't think I've ever heard a conservative suggest something like this.

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    Are you being serious? I don't think I've ever heard a conservative suggest something like this.
    I'm sure he's being quite sarcastic.
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