View Poll Results: Should the U.S. have a national identity card?

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  • Yes, it makes perfect sense. Screening for legal residence could be done with other police stops

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  • They already make you show ID and proof of insurance, it might be okay

    1 2.86%
  • As long as minorities aren't specifically targeted, it's fine

    1 2.86%
  • I don't like the idea, it makes me uncomfortable

    4 11.43%
  • Sounds like police state tactics to me.

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  • Other, please explain

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    I guess the question is: Why do we need it? I can't think of any reason.
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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    No, they would only be allowed to demand ID if they have a legitimate reason to stop you, such investigating a crime, you're speeding, your dog bit someone.
    You mean like in Arizona?

    I don't ****ing think so.
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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    The police are already allowed to demand an ID card, what's the difference? This would be specifically aimed at proving legal residence. Why is that any different than proving that you are licensed to drive, fish, hunt, or any of a number of other things.
    My state already requires that you prove your legal status in order to get a driver's license, ID, food permit and etc. So we do not need a national ID.
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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    I have no problem with a National I.D. card.
    I could have a problem with what they might have on the I.D.Card.
    A Photograph, Fingerprints, Nationality, Blood Type and any allergy's would be ok.
    I include nationality as there are folk who are in the USA quite legally but who are not and never intend to become Americans.

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    One reason I'm not necessarily for the illegal immigration act in Arizona is because it sounds like they will only require people who LOOK illegal to show papers or an ID.

    I'd rather they asked EVERYONE, no matter their ethnicity. That gets rid of the profiling issue.

    As far as a national ID card, I wouldn't be against it. Yes, we have state ID cards... but how could a police office from, say Arizona be able to tell if a Drivers License from Florida is valid? Especially if they haven't seen one before.

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    A simple tattoo on our forearm, or a bar code on the back of our heads should do nicely.---I was born a Free Person. I don't belong to anyone. I need no proof of my existence. If that is not good enough, then how about kissin it where the sun don't shine.
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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    One reason I'm not necessarily for the illegal immigration act in Arizona is because it sounds like they will only require people who LOOK illegal to show papers or an ID.

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    Where does it say that?

    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    "E. A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WITHOUT A WARRANT, MAY ARREST A PERSON IF THE OFFICER HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON HAS COMMITTED ANY PUBLIC OFFENSE THAT MAKES THE PERSON REMOVABLE FROM THE UNITED STATES."

    "Probable cause" sounds too broad to me.

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    "E. A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WITHOUT A WARRANT, MAY ARREST A PERSON IF THE OFFICER HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON HAS COMMITTED ANY PUBLIC OFFENSE THAT MAKES THE PERSON REMOVABLE FROM THE UNITED STATES."

    "Probable cause" sounds too broad to me.
    That does sound too broad.

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    Re: Should the U.S. have a nationa identity card?

    National ID cards are a sensible policy that should have been implemented years ago.

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