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Thread: Media and Talk Radio? Bias, leaners or fair

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    Re: Media and Talk Radio? Bias, leaners or fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    It is almost impossible not to put your slant on something. Just look at the different interpretations here on different events.

    There is a big difference from slant and outright fabrication. Having a news producer seen behind the camera urging a protesting crowd to be louder or putting a (D) next to the name of a Republican in legal trouble awards FOX TV the extreme right title.
    The former would award the "blatant bias" medal only to said producer (albeit with an apparent lack of corrective measures by his/her bosses), and the latter could easily be a mistake (although the potential for bias to be the cause is obvious).

    Even so, isolated and ambiguous incidents do not conclusive proof make.

    I would guess that any given person with any given opinion could dredge up similar instances for any news agency they could wish to bash…Or acclaim.

    As I said, it all depends on who you ask.

    Thanks for proving my point.
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    Re: Media and Talk Radio? Bias, leaners or fair

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I would say a Limbaugh is far right and a Michael Savage is extreme.
    I think Limbaugh is a Limbaughist, and Savage is to the far right.

    I'd like to watch/listen to a debate between the two...

    For the laughs, at the very least.
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    All of the MSM is a propaganda tool for the corporations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Go turn on PBS and discover left-wing media.
    The whole left to right description of the media makes no sense. Political philosophy does not flow along a continuum from left to right (or right to left).

    The fact is, all corporate media is corporatist. i.e. fascist. There is a class war going on in this country. It will be over and the middle class will be completely destroyed before they are even aware they are being attacked.

    Of course you won't see any of this in the MSM. They are way too clever for that. The only mention of class war is when it is used as a pejorative.

    The corporatist propaganda has been so effective that there is even a group, the tea party that wants to empower the corporations even more by defunding the government.

    The TeaPartiers know something is wrong but they're too stupid to know what to do about it. They are like a herd of sheep in wolf country hoping some mountain lion will come and rescue them.

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    Re: All of the MSM is a propaganda tool for the corporations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusticus View Post
    The whole left to right description of the media makes no sense. Political philosophy does not flow along a continuum from left to right (or right to left).

    The fact is, all corporate media is corporatist. i.e. fascist. There is a class war going on in this country. It will be over and the middle class will be completely destroyed before they are even aware they are being attacked.

    Of course you won't see any of this in the MSM. They are way too clever for that. The only mention of class war is when it is used as a pejorative.

    The corporatist propaganda has been so effective that there is even a group, the tea party that wants to empower the corporations even more by defunding the government.

    The TeaPartiers know something is wrong but they're too stupid to know what to do about it. They are like a herd of sheep in wolf country hoping some mountain lion will come and rescue them.
    You're insane, but funny.

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    rolleyes Re: All of the MSM is a propaganda tool for the corporations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusticus View Post
    The whole left to right description of the media makes no sense. Political philosophy does not flow along a continuum from left to right (or right to left).

    The fact is, all corporate media is corporatist. i.e. fascist. There is a class war going on in this country. It will be over and the middle class will be completely destroyed before they are even aware they are being attacked.

    Of course you won't see any of this in the MSM. They are way too clever for that. The only mention of class war is when it is used as a pejorative.

    The corporatist propaganda has been so effective that there is even a group, the tea party that wants to empower the corporations even more by defunding the government.

    The TeaPartiers know something is wrong but they're too stupid to know what to do about it. They are like a herd of sheep in wolf country hoping some mountain lion will come and rescue them.
    Luckily we mortals have you around to warn us of the TRVTH.

    So will you be directing us to any links on Infowars, or are you saving that for later?

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    Re: Media and Talk Radio? Bias, leaners or fair

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    The former would award the "blatant bias" medal only to said producer (albeit with an apparent lack of corrective measures by his/her bosses), and the latter could easily be a mistake (although the potential for bias to be the cause is obvious).

    Even so, isolated and ambiguous incidents do not conclusive proof make.

    I would guess that any given person with any given opinion could dredge up similar instances for any news agency they could wish to bash…Or acclaim.

    As I said, it all depends on who you ask.

    Thanks for proving my point.
    Some people agree that Hitler did much for the youth of Germany with his youth program and view the bad stuff just as isolated and ambiguous incidents.
    Then there were others who saw clearly through him.

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    Re: Media and Talk Radio? Bias, leaners or fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Some people agree that Hitler did much for the youth of Germany with his youth program and view the bad stuff just as isolated and ambiguous incidents.
    Then there were others who saw clearly through him.
    There is no argument regarding the fact that Hitler DID do much for the youth of Germany.

    The debate would lie in whether it was a good or bad "much".

    Which would, again, depend on who you asked.

    Edit: I should amend: There IS probably SOME debate as to that which I consider fact, namely that Hitler did much that effected the youth of Germany.
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    Re: Media and Talk Radio? Bias, leaners or fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Yeah, it isn't corporate media. It's worse -- state-run media.

    So how did left-wing PBS manage to survive the Bush years? Got any guesses on that one, Nostradamus?
    And why is something that is "state-run" have to be "left". I'd believe it to be the center. Someone with no agenda should be center. There were attempts by the republican congress to cut the funding for PBS, but better heads prevailed.

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    Re: Media and Talk Radio? Bias, leaners or fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I figured "Far" and "Extreme" talked more about the amount of bias they had more than pushing that agenda. For example I don't think Fox News or MSNBC (or even talk radio) push, for the most part, the "Extreme" or even the "Far" version in many cases of that particular sides agenda...but their slant and bias is definitely "Far" or "extreme" comparative to the rest of the media.
    Go listen to Limbaugh, Beck or Hannity for an hour and let me know if your opinion has changed.

    Bias is one thing, but telling people what Obama's agenda really is from their perspective and presenting it as well known fact... that is propaganda.

    And that is why they are far right to extreme far right rather than center right.

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    Re: Media and Talk Radio? Bias, leaners or fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    Go listen to Limbaugh, Beck or Hannity for an hour and let me know if your opinion has changed.

    Bias is one thing, but telling people what Obama's agenda really is from their perspective and presenting it as well known fact... that is propaganda.

    And that is why they are far right to extreme far right rather than center right.
    I have listened to them, as I have highly biased people on the Left.

    Few are the actual "extremes" of the ideology. IE your conservatives that are so far to the right that they're wanting every piece of government stripped down and are the bed down in a bunker type revolutionist. IE your liberals that are your ecoterrorists wanting to go back to a world that's akin to the middle ages or where the government literally controls and dictates everything.

    Extremely biased, sure. "Propoganda"? Depends on how you're wanting to use the word, sure. But the "extreme" wing of their particular ideology? Rarely.

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