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    Arizona New Enforcement Immigration Bill Passed & Signed

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    Re: Arizona New Enforcement Immigration Bill Passed & Signed

    I am for it. The Feds have done nothing for many years to secure the borders and manage the influx of "illegals". It is against the law to come into the US without permission.
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    Re: Arizona New Enforcement Immigration Bill Passed & Signed

    Tax dollars are being spent to catch the illegals, which I support.
    But tax dollars being spent to provide education, medical care, etc. for them and their families I do NOT support.
    They have hospitals and doctors and schools and teachers in Mexico. Let the Mexican govt. tax their rich citizens to support the education and medical care of their citizens.
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    Re: Arizona New Enforcement Immigration Bill Passed & Signed

    It's disgusting. This law is going to promote racial profiling and is going to trample on the civil rights of many, whether they're illegal or not. The law says a policeman can detain anyone he suspects to be an illegal if they can't provide proof of legal US residency. Imagine an American citizen being detained because they didn't happen to be carrying any ID, simply because some cop thought they looked Mexican. It's disgusting. Hopefully some of this legal action that's being taken will do something about it.

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    Re: Arizona New Enforcement Immigration Bill Passed & Signed

    I support it and hope that other states follow suit. States have to do the jobs the feds refuse to do.
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    Re: Arizona New Enforcement Immigration Bill Passed & Signed

    I'm for it, however I'm waiting to see how they implement it.

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    Re: Arizona New Enforcement Immigration Bill Passed & Signed

    Quote Originally Posted by Pal View Post
    It's disgusting. This law is going to promote racial profiling
    Really? Where in the bill does it do that? Here is a PDF of the bill. Please highlight the parts that do this,right click, select copy and then paste it in the next post.
    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf



    and is going to trample on the civil rights of many, whether they're illegal or not.

    How is it going to do that? And please no pro-illegals propaganda. Again here is the bill, please highlight the parts that do this,right click, select copy and then paste it in the next post.
    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf


    The law says a policeman can detain anyone he suspects to be an illegal if they can't provide proof of legal US residency.


    Really? Where in the bill does it do that? Again here is a PDF of the bill.Please highlight the parts that do this,right click, select copy and then paste it in the next post.
    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf


    Imagine an American citizen being detained because they didn't happen to be carrying any ID, simply because some cop thought they looked Mexican.
    Seeing how the law does not allow racial profiling you are just fear mongering.


    It's disgusting. Hopefully some of this legal action that's being taken will do something about it.
    Hopefully other states follow suit. Oklahoma has similar laws.
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    Re: Arizona New Enforcement Immigration Bill Passed & Signed

    Quote Originally Posted by Pal View Post
    It's disgusting. This law is going to promote racial profiling and is going to trample on the civil rights of many, whether they're illegal or not. The law says a policeman can detain anyone he suspects to be an illegal if they can't provide proof of legal US residency. Imagine an American citizen being detained because they didn't happen to be carrying any ID, simply because some cop thought they looked Mexican. It's disgusting. Hopefully some of this legal action that's being taken will do something about it.
    you know if there were as many illegals who are white, black, Asian, or Jewish there would be no reason to racially profile

    Just like if say Hasidic chess masters, Filipino football teams, Chinese Table tennis pros or Finnish biathlon athletes were blowing up airplanes or delis maybe they would be getting profiled too instead of Muslim Males.



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    Re: Arizona New Enforcement Immigration Bill Passed & Signed

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Really? Where in the bill does it do that? Here is a PDF of the bill. Please highlight the parts that do this,right click, select copy and then paste it in the next post.
    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf





    How is it going to do that? And please no pro-illegals propaganda. Again here is the bill, please highlight the parts that do this,right click, select copy and then paste it in the next post.
    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf





    Really? Where in the bill does it do that? Again here is a PDF of the bill.Please highlight the parts that do this,right click, select copy and then paste it in the next post.
    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf


    Seeing how the law does not allow racial profiling you are just fear mongering.




    Hopefully other states follow suit. Oklahoma has similar laws.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you know if there were as many illegals who are white, black, Asian, or Jewish there would be no reason to racially profile

    Just like if say Hasidic chess masters, Filipino football teams, Chinese Table tennis pros or Finnish biathlon athletes were blowing up airplanes or delis maybe they would be getting profiled too instead of Muslim Males.

    Funny how one post claims the law contains nothing that will foster racial profiling, and the next simply says that racial profiling is justified. But, since you asked, here is the passage of concern that will promote racial profiling. Excuse the caps, I copied it directly as per your childishly arrogant request.

    FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE, WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).
    If your argument was that this section did not exist, then you've failed because this is what I was referring to, and this is what everyone is referring to. If your argument is that this will not lead to racial profiling then that's your opinion, and I can't prove to you that it will before the law goes into affect, but anyone with half a brain can see what its intent is and how it will be implemented.

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    Re: Arizona New Enforcement Immigration Bill Passed & Signed

    I don't recall making a request (and certainly not one that even the most thin skinned lib would call childish or arrogant)

    and I have no problem profiling a group that is most likely to be engaged in the targeted illegal behaviour
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