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Which do you think is an appropriate American "model city?"

Which do you think is an appropriate American model city?


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Yes, as compared to taking a train, biking, or walking, people would rather drive to work. There are other options that people could take right now, but by and large people drive over any other option. It's the most expensive option, but it's also the most subsidized.

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I prefer to walk.. If its too far to walk, I prefer to bike. If its too far to bike, I prefer to read a book on the metro/tram/train on my way to work, rather than stress in traffic in some traffic jam(which is very typical in the worktime). If its too far to bike, walk or to inconvenient to take a metro/tram/train, then I would choose a motorcycle, and last I would select a car.
 
It's kind of funny. This has basically just turned into a "what's your nearest major city" thread.
 
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I prefer to walk.. If its too far to walk, I prefer to bike. If its too far to bike, I prefer to read a book on the metro/tram/train on my way to work, rather than stress in traffic in some traffic jam(which is very typical in the worktime). If its too far to bike, walk or to inconvenient to take a metro/tram/train, then I would choose a motorcycle, and last I would select a car.

That's YOU, I'm talking about most people.
 
My friend goes to UVA and I went to see him a few weeks ago and I have to say if I didn't want to get the hell out of the South I could see myself in Charlottesville. It is a really nice place to live it seems like.

It's pretty awesome. Big enough to have anything you want to do, really, but a very small town feel to it. It's low key, quiet, but active at the same time. Lots of local performers of all kinds, local crafts, farms, wineries, etc. But none of the hustle and bustle, crime, crowds, or traffic that the big cities have.

I live in quiet place with a lake in my back yard and a beautiful green mountain view. It feels very secluded, but I'm just blocks away from Lowes and other shopping centers. And 6 miles away from where I work. And I work at the downtown mall, so it's awesome in it's own right.

I mean, how could you not love working HERE:

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I said New York because it, to me, is what America is all about: Lots of people from all parts of the world living together in relative peace.
 
I said New York because it, to me, is what America is all about: Lots of people from all parts of the world living together in relative peace.

Don't forget their welfare state that's sucking the city budget dry. That's an American model.
 
Don't forget their welfare state that's sucking the city budget dry. That's an American model.

Ah, see, I was trying not to let my decision be based on which city I liked politically. I am sorry you cannot do so.
 
Burlington, VT, is a real uncelebrated hero, even if its weather isn't so great all the time. It's certainly better than Asheville.

Burlington is a pretty town, but I wouldn't call it a city. Besides the lake, it's boring as hell unless you play hacksesack (sp?) and eat cookies.

Another vote for Boston here. Walk around Cambridge in Autumn. You'll swear you woke up in Heaven.
 
Burlington is a pretty town, but I wouldn't call it a city. Besides the lake, it's boring as hell unless you play hacksesack (sp?) and eat cookies.

Another vote for Boston here. Walk around Cambridge in Autumn. You'll swear you woke up in Heaven.

Well, I can't disagree with that. I lived in Boston for 12 years and loved it...
 
Which city in America do you think should be the model city?

I say either San Fransisco or Los Angeles.

I think our past gives us more of an example than our present.

New Yorkers pulled together and transformed a swampland into Central Park with some hard labor and cutting edge technology and ideas.

This is the ideal American action - don't like it, change it. If it doesn't work right then fix it. Too big, too over the top, too unbelievable? Do it anyway.
 
I've been thinking about it and I have to admit, if it wasn't for my family and the Beloved Bears, I'd probably move to San Francisco. But that's really just cause the weather here sucks.
 
I think our past gives us more of an example than our present.

New Yorkers pulled together and transformed a swampland into Central Park with some hard labor and cutting edge technology and ideas.

This is the ideal American action - don't like it, change it. If it doesn't work right then fix it. Too big, too over the top, too unbelievable? Do it anyway.

:prof Chicago was a swamp as well AND we built the first skyscrapers, were the hub of the railroad system, heart of the meat packing industry, and we perfected the pizza and the hot dog (Only New Yorkers fail to recognize these proven facts).

Hell, we reversed the direction of a river for pete's sake! Talk about not caring about how big a job seemed to be!
 
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:prof Chicago was a swamp as well AND we built the first skyscrapers, were the hub of the railroad system, heart of the meat packing industry, and we perfected the pizza and the hot dog (Only New Yorkers fail to recognize these proven facts).

Hell, we reversed the direction of a river for pete's sake! Talk about not caring about how big a job seemed to be!

Well then - DC and Chicago be included, too. . . and whoever else culled a masterpiece out of nothing.

Today, though, we'll be damned if we try to suggest that it be maintained properly. :doh
 
I've been thinking about it and I have to admit, if it wasn't for my family and the Beloved Bears, I'd probably move to San Francisco. But that's really just cause the weather here sucks.

Have you ever seen the weather in San Francisco?
 
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I prefer to walk.. If its too far to walk, I prefer to bike. If its too far to bike, I prefer to read a book on the metro/tram/train on my way to work, rather than stress in traffic in some traffic jam(which is very typical in the worktime). If its too far to bike, walk or to inconvenient to take a metro/tram/train, then I would choose a motorcycle, and last I would select a car.
I think the mentality and options involved are probably different in Europe as opposed to the US.
 
Compared to Chicago's weather, it's pure paradise. But that can be said about most places.

Cold and gloomy all day. Give Los Angeles or San Diego a look.
 
Cold and gloomy all day. Give Los Angeles or San Diego a look.

I guess it's a matter of perspective. Coming from Chicago, where the average temps in the winter are in the low 20's and the average temps in the summer are in the 80's, Perfection in climate is mild temperatures with little to no variance and no extremes in either direction.

And it's WAY more gloomy here than it is in San Fran. There are four months of the year where we have a good deal more cloudy days than sunny ones. Like 60% of the time it's overcast.

San Fran's worst month averages about 50/50. That's what we average for the entire year.

And they only average about 70 days of rain, compared to over 100 for Chicago with an additional 30 days or so of snow.


For me, perfection in climate is very rarely going above 75, very rarely going below 40, and almost never snowing.

Toss in slightly more sun than clouds and relatively low rainfall levels (compared to what I'm used to at least) and I'll be in heaven. :lol:
 
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In all seriousness. Best American cities are clearly in declining order.
1. Vancouver(said to be best in the world)
2. Toronto
3. Montreal

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Try to prove that one wrong ;)
 
I think the mentality and options involved are probably different in Europe as opposed to the US.

I mean, common long term sense would dictate that policy regulation move attitudes in the European direction. Not only is it more efficient, but caring about peoples health it makes a lot more sense.
 
In all seriousness. Best American cities are clearly in declining order.
1. Vancouver(said to be best in the world)
2. Toronto
3. Montreal

:mrgreen:

Try to prove that one wrong ;)

easy ... go to any of them in the winter
 
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