View Poll Results: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

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  • Yes they should be able to favor one religion in a divorce dispute

    13 20.00%
  • Each parent should be allowed to expose the child to their respective faiths

    26 40.00%
  • The court should butt out of disputes of a religious nature

    18 27.69%
  • The parents should have thought of this ahead of time.

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Thread: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    No, it's not. I am correct and you are covering for a biased judge. Shame on you.
    This is a joke. It's such a joke that I don't even need to explain why. Everyone else can see, and you never will.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Children should not be made to go to school when they are too young to make the decision for themselves.
    Not comparable. While schools may arbitrarily indoctrinate children to some extent just like a church, this is a latent rather than a primary function. School teaches you the basic skills needed to thrive in the modern world.
    Last edited by LiveUninhibited; 05-04-10 at 06:45 AM.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Joseph Reyes pleaded not guilty for allegedly violating a court order issued by Chicago family law Judge Edward R. Jordan who had barred Reyes from taking his 3-year-old daughter to church following a dispute over religion with his estranged wife. Reyes' wife, Rebecca Reyes, is Jewish.

    Reyes, a veteran of the Afghan war, made a motion to have his contempt charges heard by a different judge, a motion that was granted. He was arraigned before Judge Elizabeth Loredo-Rivera.

    If found guilty of indirect criminal contempt, Reyes could be sentenced to up to six months in jail.
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    Judge won't toss contempt charge against dad who took daughter to Mass
    May 7, 2010

    A Cook County judge has ruled that a father must stand trial for contempt after taking his daughter to Mass at a Roman Catholic church, defying a court order that barred him from exposing the 3-year-old to any "non-Jewish" religious activity.

    His lawyer, Joel Brodsky, filed a motion to dismiss the contempt charge arguing the order was "too vague to determine what constitutes exposing Ela Reyes to any religion other than the Jewish religion," and that "the court cannot decide what constitutes the Jewish religion."

    Associate Judge Elizabeth Loredo-Rivera said courts in Illinois can "adjudicate religious disputes, in the best interest of the child."

    "That's a scary sentence," Brodsky said. "This decision from a religious perspective is a direct assault on the First Amendment."

    The restrictions on Reyes' church attendance with his daughter ended when the divorce was ruled upon last month. That ruling permitting Reyes to take his daughter to church services during his visitation time and granting visitation on Christmas and Easter.
    Source: Chicago Breaking News

    Although a Divorce Court decree allows Joseph Reyes a religious relationship with his daughter, a judge has now ruled that Reyes must stand trial for contempt of court (violating the original court injunction).

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
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    Source: Chicago Breaking News

    Although a Divorce Court decree allows Joseph Reyes a religious relationship with his daughter, a judge has now ruled that Reyes must stand trial for contempt of court (violating the original court injunction).
    And he will never be convicted because such a ruling is a clear and obvious violation of the 1st Amendment. It's time for the judge who refused to toss out that bogus contempt charge to be tossed off the bench.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    A Cook County judge has ruled that a father must stand trial for contempt after taking his daughter to Mass at a Roman Catholic church, defying a court order that barred him from exposing the 3-year-old to any "non-Jewish" religious activity.
    Now that is truly, truly stupid. Talk about wasting tax-payer money on a ridiculous case.

    There may well be a "contempt of court" case here to answer but how would it (as this is a child law case after all) be in the child's interests for the father to serve any sentence from this case and thus the child lose contact with her father?

    Not that I'm saying fathers shouldn't go to prison if they are guilty of a serious crime but this case is supposedly about a child's best interests...

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Now that is truly, truly stupid. Talk about wasting tax-payer money on a ridiculous case.

    There may well be a "contempt of court" case here to answer but how would it (as this is a child law case after all) be in the child's interests for the father to serve any sentence from this case and thus the child lose contact with her father?

    Not that I'm saying fathers shouldn't go to prison if they are guilty of a serious crime but this case is supposedly about a child's best interests...
    It has nothing to do with the child's best interest. It has everything to do with a racist judge and an obvious challenge to his authority. The judge who made the first ruling needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred. The judge who made the second ruling needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred.

    Cook county has serious judicial corruption issues. The Federal Department of Justice needs to step in and start removing these corrupt ass-hat judges from the bench and the practice of law.

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