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  • Yes they should be able to favor one religion in a divorce dispute

    13 20.00%
  • Each parent should be allowed to expose the child to their respective faiths

    26 40.00%
  • The court should butt out of disputes of a religious nature

    18 27.69%
  • The parents should have thought of this ahead of time.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    If that is what she meant, maybe so; however, I do not believe that is what occurred. I believe a dishonest judge entered an order that violated the 1st Amendment of the United States Constitution.

    Given the fact that the party seeking the restraining order is jewish, the judge is jewish and the fact that the judge issued a restraining order that prevented the child from going to a non-jewish church is EXTREMELY biased.

    The issuing judge needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred. We cannot allow religiously biased judges to make decisions which are ABSOLUTELY in violation of the 1st Amendment of the United States Constitution.
    I think how it works it that a judge from a higher court overturns the ruling. Someone earlier in the thread pointed out that the article was a couple of months old and that, indeed, a higher court judge (who was Jewish) overturned the ruling.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    According to the article...


    Seems to me that the Catholic father acknowledged his daughter as Jewish and fully acquiesced in regards to her religious upbringing. It doesn’t reflect very well on him that his daughter’s religion became contentious only after he lost parental custody.

    Although the article does not specifically mention a time-frame, it would seem to me that the husband converted to Judaism in order to marry Rebecca. I would imagine that Rebecca (and her family) insisted on this in order to validate and solidify a preference for traditional Jewish law in regards to marriage and family matters. In other words, dad tacitly acknowledged that any offspring would be considered Jewish in all matters regarding faith.

    Although I believe he has the legal right to introduce his daughter to Catholicism, I also think his motive is perhaps underhanded and born of spite. Rebecca should also probably have insisted on a pre-nuptial legal contract with heavy breachment penalties.
    I think they shouldn't have married. As I have said earlier, I cannot countenance someone agreeing not to share their faith with the child. Perhaps he realized this after the divorce. Perhaps his only shortcoming was not having the foresight to see how your convictions can change and how that might affect how you want to raise your child. You can't forgo believing whatever it is that you think is correct. You shouldn't agree in advance not to meaningfully share such matters with your child.

    She had the same lack of foresight, really, about people, and faith.

    Added to this is the problem of her rigidity. I have a tendency not to have sympathy for rigid people. I think they create their own 'hell', and they just get to live with the mental turmoil they invite upon themselves.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I think how it works it that a judge from a higher court overturns the ruling. Someone earlier in the thread pointed out that the article was a couple of months old and that, indeed, a higher court judge (who was Jewish) overturned the ruling.
    Good. I am glad to hear that. I still think the lower court judge needs to be removed from the bench.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Good. I am glad to hear that. I still think the lower court judge needs to be removed from the bench.
    If every judge who issued a decision that a higher court overturned, the whole distict court bar would be empty.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    If every judge who issued a decision that a higher court overturned, the whole distict court bar would be empty.
    This decision was based on religious bias and that creates a special circumstance. The lower court judge crossed a line and that MUST be addressed.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    How about banning children from church completely?

    I hate it when people say their children are [insert arbitrary religion here]. Or when you see children being paraded around with political signs and epiphets written all over them at rallys

    A *child* can't be Christian/Jewish any more than they can be Republican/Democrat/Independent. The whole notion is absurd. Maybe the judge should order that the child can't be taken to any church until they are 16?

    They can go when they are old enough to understand what the hell is going on

    ;-)

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    This decision was based on religious bias
    How do you know?

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    How do you know?
    Do the math, misterman!

    The judge was jewish, the party requesting the order was jewish, and the order issued barred the child from being exposed to any religion other than jewish.

    This is a CLEAR bias.

    The judge who signed that order needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Do the math, misterman!

    The judge was jewish, the party requesting the order was jewish, and the order issued barred the child from being exposed to any religion other than jewish.

    This is a CLEAR bias.

    The judge who signed that order needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred.
    This is why you're just a guy on the internet and not a judge, thank God.

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    Re: Should a divorce court be able to forbid one parent to take a child to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    This is why you're just a guy on the internet and not a judge, thank God.

    No, it's not. I am correct and you are covering for a biased judge. Shame on you.

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