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    Re: Do You Believe in Karma?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Do You Believe in Karma? Why or Why Not?
    Answer: No

    Reason: I'm an atheist

    Also, Karma is viewed differently in different religion, Jainism, Sikhism, Buddhism, and Hinduism all view Karma differently.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Karma?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, it does seem to have an element of morality in it, but it seems to be more accepting of human nature and less inclined to a harsh sense of retribution-based morality based on fear of punishment. Overall (imo) it encourages people to become more centered and conscious, but also seems to facilitate a more realistic pracitce of ethical behavior than some of the other religious practices.
    I would agree with that to some extent. I think that in a Buddhist context this would be the truth as the idea is more about healing than retribution so in that sense what you say is true but at the same time within Buddhism you have people living in the hell realms because of past actions.

    I think talking of karma inevitably leads to talking about consciousness because to some extent, I do not see the relevance of karma apart from when one has not moved into a position where the concept of harming is no longer of one's nature and there as an aid in moving towards a good moral choice - which ought to improve the quality of one's life.

    What do you mean it is about accepting of human nature? In what way does the concept of Karma help people to become more centred?
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    Re: Do You Believe in Karma?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    A belief in karma requires looking at the big picture over eons of time and is not something that is usually consciously apparent in one lifetime.

    Actually, karma could be a very good explanation for why sometimes, good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people.
    Actually, sacrificing that young virgin to the Volcano god has exactly the same amount of evidence karma, reincarnation, the soul, undying subconscious and all of the other religious nuttery that humans create to comfort their fear of the unknown.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Karma?

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post

    What do you mean it is about accepting of human nature? In what way does the concept of Karma help people to become more centred?
    Well, it's difficult to explain what my pov is, but I'll try. In the realm of human consciousness and action, there tends to be black and white thinking. Things are considered good or bad, not just "there". The human way of thinking and feeling is to wish for good, and hate bad. It seems to me that the concept of karma encourages a more balanced approach. Sure there's a concept of "hell", but it seems to be understood that hell is not an eternal damnation, and that one's actions and attitudes not only cause it, but are also the remedy. It allows for imperfection in a more non-judgemental way than some of the other religions, and it places the responsibility for one's "soul" or affairs on the individual, and gives the individual the power to determine the direction of life and destiny.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Karma?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, it's difficult to explain what my pov is, but I'll try. In the realm of human consciousness and action, there tends to be black and white thinking. Things are considered good or bad, not just "there". The human way of thinking and feeling is to wish for good, and hate bad. It seems to me that the concept of karma encourages a more balanced approach. Sure there's a concept of "hell", but it seems to be understood that hell is not an eternal damnation, and that one's actions and attitudes not only cause it, but are also the remedy. It allows for imperfection in a more non-judgemental way than some of the other religions, and it places the responsibility for one's "soul" or affairs on the individual, and gives the individual the power to determine the direction of life and destiny.
    I am not sure that karma is all that much to do with not black and white thinking.

    I think you will find people capable of being multi dimensional who have no interest in Karma at all. I would hope many people who have no interest in karma may have been taught that things are rarely so black and white.

    I do agree that karma does not mean you have had it for ever as it tends to belong to religions which believe in rebirth.

    However a RC can go and do a few Hail Mary's and be forgiven for all manner of crimes. I have heard gangland criminals speaking of how they did this, so I think it is not true that most religions do not have ways out.

    I believe it is true to an enormous extent that we receive back what we give and to a large extent that is probably because a lot of what we receive stems from how we treat others and our own projections.

    The concept of Karma has a use - to help people understand that. Being brought up with love, care and understanding will probably do the same.
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    Re: Do You Believe in Karma?

    Absolutely not, there is no rational reason to accept that anything like karma or fate exists. It's just more superstitious nonsense from the "I want to feel good, even if it's laughably false" crowd.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Karma?

    I believe in God but I do not believe in Karma.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Karma?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I believe in God but I do not believe in Karma.
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    Cool Re: Do You Believe in Karma?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Do You Believe in Karma? Why or Why Not?
    I believe in Karma to a point.

    (that point being,... where you see good people rewarded and bad people punished)

    But I have major complaints about the way it's currently being implimented.
    Last edited by Chuz Life; 04-25-10 at 12:50 AM.

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    Re: Do You Believe in Karma?

    To many good people have bad luck. and two many bad guys get away with murder, for there to be any Karma. As far as in the next life goes, who cares. this is the one I'm in now.
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