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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Does hard work always lead to a higher income?

    The reason I ask this is that I see a lot of people assuming that people with a low income are lazy.
    That's such a poorly phrased question, and coming from you, bias is expected.

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    That's such a poorly phrased question, and coming from you, bias is expected.
    How is it poorly phrased?

    What I want to know is why people assume that poor people are lazy? In my experience there are poor people with all sorts of amounts of work ethic.

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    But would you be a lazy ditch digger?
    Honestly if I thought I would always be a ditch digger, probably. Why work harder if the end result is likely the same.

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    How is it poorly phrased?
    Because it your hidden intent showed, otherwise you would have just asked this:
    What I want to know is why people assume that poor people are lazy?

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Not always....

    Most of the time.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Honestly if I thought I would always be a ditch digger, probably. Why work harder if the end result is likely the same.
    I would probably react that way too, but I am a fairly ambitious person.

    However, at the textile mill I work at, I know plenty of people who work hard for the sake of working hard and never aspire to even being a supervisor. Many only make 10 or 11 an hour, but they tend to be happy people.

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Often, the low paying jobs are hard work. My dad never got a formal education, he worked very hard all his working years, sometimes two jobs. He is the one who taught me the importance of hard work, and I can honestly say that I love to work. It's good for my body, mind, and spirit.

    You might have considered asking if hard work at improving one's chances of success always lead to a higher income, in which case I would have said usually.
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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Does hard work always lead to a higher income?

    The reason I ask this is that I see a lot of people assuming that people with a low income are lazy.
    The dean at my lawschool noted that

    1) working hard was no guarantee you would make the law review on grades or graduate as a member of "The order of coif"

    2) not working hard was a guarantee you would not make the law review or graduate with honors

    I am sure that someone proved the 2nd proposition wrong at some point but for the most part he was dead on accurate.


    many of those people who are poor never learned how to work hard and never had anyone around them who did



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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    I guess to answer your question about the poor being lazy. No, not all poor people are poor because they are lazy. Many are poor because they are ill or can't work. Many are poor because they can't receive an education. And many are poor simply because of the times. My family has been extremely poor before and my dad worked his butt off to provide our basic needs. He is one of the hardest working people I know. If anything, I would say many poor people have a better work ethic than rich people.

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    However, at the textile mill I work at, I know plenty of people who work hard for the sake of working hard and never aspire to even being a supervisor. Many only make 10 or 11 an hour, but they tend to be happy people.
    I was very much this way in my youth. I would spent countless hours perfecting the most trivial of tasks. As I gained more experience I found that this can, as often as not, retard advancements depending on your employeer. Some will leave you to the lesser tasks because you will do it so much better then anyone else and do not wish to lose that dedication in the given area. Others will recognize your potential as someone who can achieve more and give you options to advance.

    Sadly working for others leaves you at the decisions of others and many persons in managment postions simply haven't got a clue.

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