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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    If I hand you a shovel, you are saying you can't dig a hole?
    Hand you a scalpel, can you do bypass surgery?

    Neither you nor Jingo have an important point. You're not slow, how could you even float that idea?
    You seem to think digging holes is not very complicated: hit one wrong gas line, water line, etc. and see what happens. OK.
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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Does hard work always lead to a higher income?

    The reason I ask this is that I see a lot of people assuming that people with a low income are lazy.
    There is no substitute for hard work. John Wooden.

    Very many are lazy, and that is OK. It's the state man seeks naturally.
    It's their choice to accept this state or get their asses in motion.

    And state intervention in an attempt at correction makes the situation worse... because it doesn't address the problem. It only reinforces it.

    In fact given enough time, The State institutionalizes it with their programs, hand outs and other nonsense.

    Perhaps well meant, but destructive in the long run.
    It breeds more of the same.
    In worst cases you get ghetto's.

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Does hard work always lead to a higher income?
    Only if that hard word is leading to a high paying job. Hard work by itself does not equal higher pay. For example someone work hard at McDonalds or Walmart, it might lead to upper management positions but it will not lead to you being rich.

    The reason I ask this is that I see a lot of people assuming that people with a low income are lazy.
    I am not one of those people.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Only if that hard word is leading to a high paying job. Hard work by itself does not equal higher pay. For example someone work hard at McDonalds or Walmart, it might lead to upper management positions but it will not lead to you being rich.
    Not only that but the closer you get to making big money the less you have to work. You just sit back behind your mahogany desk, smoke a Havana and let your staff take care of all the details.

    ricksfolly

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Not only that but the closer you get to making big money the less you have to work. You just sit back behind your mahogany desk, smoke a Havana and let your staff take care of all the details.

    ricksfolly
    In every place I have worked, half the managers would be browsing the web at any given moment while the supervisors and floor guys were rushing around.

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I would go into a long rant about how the ditch digger has much more stress than the Brain Surgeon and how some people view people in a medical position as Gods but it would be pointless.

    The fact of the matter is that ditchdigger has as much worth and works as hard as that Brain Surgeon on a daily basis and their pay should reflect that.
    What pay reflects is supply and demand. It has nothing to do with a job being "hard" or "easy" or someone "working hard" or their "worth". When people decry that teachers get $40,000 and pro basketball players get millions it is simply that they (like most Americans) are economically ignorant. The importance of the job or its "worth" has nothing to do with how much it pays. Never has. Never will. It's not a personal thing or anti-ditchdigger. It's simply that the pool of unskilled or semi-skilled workers capable of digging a ditch is huge and demand for those positions is not as huge, whereas the supply of brain surgeons is very low compared to the demand for them. Trust me, if we graduated two million brain surgeons next year their annual pay would fall off a cliff.
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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Not only that but the closer you get to making big money the less you have to work. You just sit back behind your mahogany desk, smoke a Havana and let your staff take care of all the details.

    ricksfolly
    Judging by your statement you seem to have some ignorant fantasy about what those people do.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Unless Horatio Alger lied to me, the answer is yes.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Not only that but the closer you get to making big money the less you have to work. You just sit back behind your mahogany desk, smoke a Havana and let your staff take care of all the details.

    ricksfolly
    This is just as ridiculous of a misconception as the idea that all poor people are lazy.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Does hard work always lead to a higher income

    No, I am a firm believer in the "Peter Principle".

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