View Poll Results: Replace congress with a literal populace vote?

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Thread: Stupid congress....

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    Re: Stupid congress....

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Replace congress with a vigilantly fraud resistant (and proven to the people) populace vote?
    Nah. I'm against mob rule. However, I do think we should have a process of popular initiatives for federal laws. I think the people should be able to pass federal laws that 1) have a majority of popular support nationwide and 2) have a majority of state populations support it. So to pass a vote, it should not only get a majority nationwide, it also needs a majority in 26 of the states. That way the people can bypass Congress if need be in order to pass some needed laws.

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    Re: Stupid congress....

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I think the people should be able to pass federal laws that 1) have a majority of popular support nationwide and 2) have a majority of state populations support it. So to pass a vote, it should not only get a majority nationwide, it also needs a majority in 26 of the states. That way the people can bypass Congress if need be in order to pass some needed laws.
    Problem - that system sets it up where a MINORITY can block legislation if they happen to live in fewer than half the states. In your system, the people in as few as 5 or 6 of the largest states could block laws supported by a majority in the rest.

    Much like the electoral college can elect a president with a minority of the popular vote.

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    Re: Stupid congress....

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Problem - that system sets it up where a MINORITY can block legislation if they happen to live in fewer than half the states. In your system, the people in as few as 5 or 6 of the largest states could block laws supported by a majority in the rest.

    Much like the electoral college can elect a president with a minority of the popular vote.
    Kind of like the Senate?

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    Re: Stupid congress....

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Replace congress with a vigilantly fraud resistant (and proven to the people) populace vote?
    Populism is worse than Congress.
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    Re: Stupid congress....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Kind of like the Senate?
    Yes, like the Senate too, good point.

    But at least the Senate has the House to counterbalance it.

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