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    Re: Ron Paul vs Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's the whole point though.
    You're supposed to win using the best argument with facts.

    Winning the voters is meaningless, if the voters are wrong.
    Don't get me wrong, i think Obama could argue with Ron Paul fact v. fact. But winning the debate is meaningless if you don't end up being president.
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    Re: Ron Paul vs Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    how in the world do you figure that?
    Shouldn't have said democrats but rather progressives.

    Both parties are heavily representative of the early 20th century progressive movement.
    Wilsonian war policy, both corporate and social welfare and a few others I'm not thinking of.

    Tea Party members wants to keep the social programs costing us the most money.
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    Re: Ron Paul vs Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Paul argues using factual information, while Obama uses emotive pleasantries.
    He spanked McCain, Rudy and Hannity.
    Obama would be a cake walk.
    People can use factual information to create misleading comments or use facts and draw wrong conclusions. Paul does not impress me with his "facts".
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    Re: Ron Paul vs Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    People can use factual information to create misleading comments or use facts and draw wrong conclusions. Paul does not impress me with his "facts".
    And while that may be true, you'd have to show that Paul was incorrect in his usage, which should be quite easy, if it were misleading or not true.
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    Re: Ron Paul vs Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    And while that may be true, you'd have to show that Paul was incorrect in his usage, which should be quite easy, if it were misleading or not true.
    He does better than some, but not perfect, and he draws wildly wrong conclusions from facts.

    PolitiFact | Ron Paul's file
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    Re: Ron Paul vs Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He does better than some, but not perfect, and he draws wildly wrong conclusions from facts.

    PolitiFact | Ron Paul's file
    Most of the attacks on Paul are baseless and are usually veiled attempts at character assassination.
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    Re: Ron Paul vs Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Most of the attacks on Paul are baseless and are usually veiled attempts at character assassination.
    Is my saying he is nuttier than a fruitcake character assassination?
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    Re: Ron Paul vs Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Is my saying he is nuttier than a fruitcake character assassination?
    I'd say so because you aren't disproving what he is saying but rather framing him as mentally unstable, when there is no history of such.

    It's a dishonest debate tactic.
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    Re: Ron Paul vs Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'd say so because you aren't disproving what he is saying but rather framing him as mentally unstable, when there is no history of such.

    It's a dishonest debate tactic.
    There is in fact just such a history: Ron Paul on the Issues
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    Re: Ron Paul vs Barack Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There is in fact just such a history: Ron Paul on the Issues
    So basically, it's easy to ridicule people because they are different than you?
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