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South Park Mohammad Censored

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I heard that there were death threats from some extremists from Islam.

Unfortunately, this is a tactic that they use and people don't want to be killed. It's a dilemma.

If Muslims want to be a part of Western societies they are going to have to grow thicker skins and get used to criticism of their prophet, and having him be the object of satire. They need to grow up as a people, and be able to withstand this without rioting or killing the critics. No beheading either. They are still immature as a people if they can't handle this without these out of proportional responses.

If the Muslim world wants respect and admiration, they need to grow up, quit hiding in the shadows, learn to play fair, and learn to take it like men.
 
It's not the job of a comedy TV network to face down totalitarianism though.

Actually, it's all of our job.

Your apologia displays a failure in that regard on your part.
 
Why do you expect a comedy TV network to fight your battles against terrorists?

That's a fair question.

Why should comedy writers have to risk death by assassination? I don't blame them for capitulating.

I think the best response to this absurdity is lots of publicity that makes the Muslim world look like the babyish fools they are. They are emotionally stunted. The only reason they are even afloat at this time is that many of their nations happen to have oil. If it weren't for that they would be utterly third world, they are incapable of playing by the rules of more mature nations.
 
Actually, it's all of our job.

Your apologia displays a failure in that regard on your part.

It's up to each individual to make up his/her own mind what they want to risk their lives for. People have families to think about. Is it worth it just to make a tasteless joke?
 
I don't have a battle against terrorists.

I have an issue with a company who caters to terrorists. And, as a free American with the freedom of speech and a right to inform companies in our free market how I feel about their actions, I plan on informing them.

Sure, they're free to cater to the whims of terrorists. And I'm free to tell them I'm unhappy with their decision and I think they should shove their cowardice up their pansy ass.

Cowardice?

You don't think they censor stuff every day to avoid controversy?

It's not their job to stand up to terrorists, or anyone else who might complain about what they broadcast. It's a stupid comedy network. Their job is to make us laugh and make money doing it.
 
That's a fair question.

Why should comedy writers have to risk death by assassination? I don't blame them for capitulating.

I think the best response to this absurdity is lots of publicity that makes the Muslim world look like the babyish fools they are. They are emotionally stunted. The only reason they are even afloat at this time is that many of their nations happen to have oil. If it weren't for that they would be utterly third world, they are incapable of playing by the rules of more mature nations.

Screw 'em. And screw Mohammad too. And the camel he rode in on.

I'm so sick of these bastards. I relish the day the world no longer needs their oil and they are left to squalor in the desert pounding sand up their ass. They don't deserve to participate in humankind, in my humble opinion.

But, then again, I haven't had my coffee this morning either. :mrgreen:
 
I heard that there were death threats from some extremists from Islam.

Unfortunately, this is a tactic that they use and people don't want to be killed. It's a dilemma.

If Muslims want to be a part of Western societies they are going to have to grow thicker skins and get used to criticism of their prophet, and having him be the object of satire. They need to grow up as a people, and be able to withstand this without rioting or killing the critics. No beheading either. They are still immature as a people if they can't handle this without these out of proportional responses.

If the Muslim world wants respect and admiration, they need to grow up, quit hiding in the shadows, learn to play fair, and learn to take it like men.

What is with all this 'Muslim world' BS?
Did all Muslims gather together and decide to send threats to the writers?

This was a few extremists whining and the channel bowed down to them. Don't blame Muslims for the response from the channel.
 
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That's a fair question.

Why should comedy writers have to risk death by assassination? I don't blame them for capitulating.

Yep. Anyone who thinks CC are a bunch of cowards should go draw a picture of an Arab, write "Muhammed" on it, and post it on a website along with their name and address.
 
Screw 'em. And screw Mohammad too. And the camel he rode in on.

I'm so sick of these bastards. I relish the day the world no longer needs their oil and they are left to squalor in the desert pounding sand up their ass. They don't deserve to participate in humankind, in my humble opinion.

But, then again, I haven't had my coffee this morning either. :mrgreen:

They are aggravating. They are toast once they run out of oil. That's why it's so imperative that we aggressively seek alternatives to foreign oil. All the money we've spent on Mid East conflicts could have been better spent on research and development into liquid fuel alternatives.
 
Yep. Anyone who thinks CC are a bunch of cowards should go draw a picture of an Arab, write "Muhammed" on it, and post it on a website along with their name and address.

Exactly. I doubt if many people here want to risk their lives to these followers of the peaceful prophet.
 
Yes and no.

Why? Because this is America and we can say what we like. If you can't handle it, change the damn channel.

South Park has made fun of things I hold near and dear on some occasions. I got over it eventually. If I can do it, anybody can.

**** the haters.
 
That's kinda unfair, seeing that the only reason for the censoring of the episode was them not wishing to come under fire.

If they are honestly concerned for their safety, they should contact the law enforcement authorities and file a complaint against those who have threatened them.
 
Why should comedy writers have to risk death by assassination? I don't blame them for capitulating.
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The comedy writers apparently weren't afraid since they produced the show in the first place. THEY WANTED THE SHOW TO AIR. It was Comedy Central that capitulated to the threats of criminals and censored it.
 
Trey and Matt achieved their goal for South Park's 200th anniversary show: they made people think!

I don't know whether showing a depiction of Mohammad or implying they were showing a depiction of Mohammad was right or wrong. But given the feelings of the Muslim community and especially in the face of credible threats from extreme elements within that community, these types of depictions were certainly viewed by the management as potentially endangering the lives of innocent employees at Comedy Central. Such judgments are a part of their responsibilities and they did what they thought best.

Parker and Stone have done this to Comedy Central management in the past and I rather think in this 200th show, which was a reprise of so many controversies they helped stir, they did it again. That's no mean feat. I doubt the missing dialog was half as good as the beep and the story behind the beep. Really, it was a tour de force.
 
The comedy writers apparently weren't afraid since they produced the show in the first place. THEY WANTED THE SHOW TO AIR. It was Comedy Central that capitulated to the threats of criminals and censored it.

Like I said, if you think Comedy Central shouldn't have done that, why don't you draw a picture of Muhammed and post it somewhere with your name and address?

Comedy Central is a business. A comedy business. They have a duty to their owners/shareholders not to risk getting blown up by terrorists over a few bleeps in a show. It's not their job to risk that to stand up for freedom and justice and all that crap. It's their job to make us laugh.
 
Trey and Matt achieved their goal for South Park's 200th anniversary show: they made people think!

Yes. And it's not like they had any illusions that it wouldn't be censored. THEY are the ones who put Mohammed in a bear suit after all. How come nobody is bashing them for not actually showing Mohammed in their show?
 
Like I said, if you think Comedy Central shouldn't have done that, why don't you draw a picture of Muhammed and post it somewhere with your name and address?

Comedy Central is a business. A comedy business. They have a duty to their owners/shareholders not to risk getting blown up by terrorists over a few bleeps in a show. It's not their job to risk that to stand up for freedom and justice and all that crap. It's their job to make us laugh.

It is their right. However, it's my right to say they are chicken ****s who should move to Belgium with the rest of the Islamo-fanatic appeasing chicken****s.
 
It is their right. However, it's my right to say they are chicken ****s who should move to Belgium with the rest of the Islamo-fanatic appeasing chicken****s.

So have you posted a drawing of Mohammed with your name and address to a website or poster somewhere, you big strong brave man?

Or should you move to Belgium? (I think you mean the Netherlands though).
 
Yes. And it's not like they had any illusions that it wouldn't be censored. THEY are the ones who put Mohammed in a bear suit after all. How come nobody is bashing them for not actually showing Mohammed in their show?

They actually revealed to us that Mohammad had never been in the bear suit and challenged us to decide whether it mattered or not. Was it okay that it was Santa after all? Did it matter that they depicted a U-Haul where presumably Mohammad was in the back? They are not making this easy on us or their management, are they?
 
They actually revealed to us that Mohammad had never been in the bear suit and challenged us to decide whether it mattered or not. Was it okay that it was Santa after all? Did it matter that they depicted a U-Haul where presumably Mohammad was in the back? They are not making this easy on us or their management, are they?

Nope. They never do.

But I still find it funny that everyone is bashing the network when most of the censorship was self-censorship. Nobody's calling the creators cowards for not showing Muhammed in the first place (knowing it would be censored by the network anyway, of course).
 
Two Questions:

Q1. Should Comedy Central have allowed a cartoon depiction of Mohammad to be aired on South Park?

Yes

Q2. Should Comedy Central have bleeped the name "Mohammad" throughout the episode, and then bleep over a minute of dialogue? (this is what they did)

No
State your reason.

If you are going to allow all kinds of groups of people, religions, political figures and religious figures to be poked fun at then no one should be exempt. Plus no one should cave to a bunch of terrorist scum.
 
If you are going to allow all kinds of groups of people, religions, political figures and religious figures to be poked fun at then no one should be exempt. Plus no one should cave to a bunch of terrorist scum.

I dare you to post a drawing of Mohammed, clearly labeled as such, with your name and home address here, tough guy.
 
Nope. They never do.

But I still find it funny that everyone is bashing the network when most of the censorship was self-censorship.

No most of it was not self censored. Muhammad in a bear suit or not is not censorship. They did not self censor.

Nobody's calling the creators cowards for not showing Muhammed in the first place (knowing it would be censored by the network anyway, of course).

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In another episode they did show Muhammad. :doh They did NOT expect any censoring outside of the fake censoring they did for a laugh and to make a point.

Actualy watch the show. :doh
 
I dare you to post a drawing of Mohammed, clearly labeled as such, with your name and home address here, tough guy.

Many would do it. But we can't, not because of Muslims, but because of Internet stalkers, identity theft or nut cases possibly like your self.

Why do you want Jamesrage's address so bad? Hmmmmmm???

PS plus it is against DP rules.
 
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No most of it was not self censored. Muhammad in a bear suit or not is not censorship. They did not self censor.

Yes, that's exactly what it was. Of course it was.

In another episode they did show Muhammad. :doh

Did you see him on Comedy Central though? Or was he censored? Was the network happy?

They did NOT expect any censoring outside of the fake censoring they did for a laugh and to make a point.

No, they cleverly turned self-censorship into a show with a point. You didn't catch that?
 
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