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    Re: South Park Mohammad Censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Many would do it. But we can't, not because of Muslims, but because of Internet stalkers, identity theft or nut cases possibly like your self.
    Oh, so Comedy Central are cowards for being afraid of terrorists, but you're not a coward for being afraid of stalkers and nut cases. Okay.

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    Re: South Park Mohammad Censored

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    … I still find it funny that everyone is bashing the network when most of the censorship was self-censorship. Nobody's calling the creators cowards for not showing Muhammed in the first place (knowing it would be censored by the network anyway, of course).
    I don't agree. Trey and Matt had the courage to create a totally avoidable fight not only with Muslim extremists (who are irrational and capable of anything) but also their own network management (who are irrational and capable of anything).

    It would have been easy for them to create a self congratulatory 200th anniversary episode that stroked their own egos, but, they instead stuck it in the eye (again!) of every celebrity they ever insulted, every Muslim extremist they ever provoked, every network executive they ever angered and every soul-less ginger kid they ever humiliated. It was another South Park achievement and reminds us why they reached episode 200 in the first place.
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    Re: South Park Mohammad Censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I don't agree. Trey and Matt had the courage to create a totally avoidable fight not only with Muslim extremists (who are irrational and capable of anything) but also their own network management (who are irrational and capable of anything).

    It would have been easy for them to create a self congratulatory 200th anniversary episode that stroked their own egos, but, they instead stuck it in the eye (again!) of every celebrity they ever insulted, every Muslim extremist they ever provoked, every network executive they ever angered and every soul-less ginger kid they ever humiliated. It was another South Park achievement and reminds us why they reached episode 200 in the first place.
    Well, yes, they managed to do all that - while still completely avoiding actually showing Muhammed.

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    Re: South Park Mohammad Censored

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yes, that's exactly what it was. Of course it was.
    You are completley wrong.

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    Did you see him on Comedy Central though? Or was he censored?
    Yes he is even seen in reruns on other networks.

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    No, they cleverly turned self-censorship into a show with a point. You didn't catch that?
    No. The evidence I posted above and their own statement to the press flies in the face of your comments. I tell you what.

    I will take Matt & Trey's word over yours.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: South Park Mohammad Censored

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I dare you to post a drawing of Mohammed, clearly labeled as such, with your name and home address here, tough guy.
    You are aware that the creators of SouthPark made a depiction of Mohamed in other episodes of south park and practically the whole world knows who they are. My anonymity has nothing to do with terrorist scum. So why do you think we should cave to terrorist? Were you the kid in school who gave the school bully your lunch money and did his homework just so he won't beat you up?
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    Re: South Park Mohammad Censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes he is even seen in reruns on other networks.
    Is he? Betcha the other networks have no idea what they're doing, and neither do the Muslims.

    But tell me, if CC censored this bear suit episode even the way it was, do you really believe they wouldn't have if they showed Muhammed - in a show that was all about showing him? When some dooshbag Muslims are threatening even when they didn't actually show him?

    P.S. As I remembered, the first show with Mohammed was ALSO censored by CC. So they knew they couldn't get Mohammed on another show.

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    Re: South Park Mohammad Censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    That's kinda unfair, seeing that the only reason for the censoring of the episode was them not wishing to come under fire.
    It most certainly is NOT unfair. If they are going to cave in to threats, and censor artistic expression as a side effect, then they are simply going to have two camps pissed off at them: A bunch of wackos on one side and their customers on the other side. Their customers are simply going to have be forceful enough to get listened to.

    It is CCs choice to get involved in a business where every once in a long long while, their customers are going to demand that they nod, ever so slightly, to the notion of a robust marketplace of ideas. They are not being treated 'unfairly'.

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    Re: South Park Mohammad Censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    It most certainly is NOT unfair. If they are going to cave in to threats, and censor artistic expression as a side effect, then they are simply going to have two camps pissed off at them: A bunch of wackos on one side and their customers on the other side. Their customers are simply going to have be forceful enough to get listened to.

    It is CCs choice to get involved in a business where every once in a long long while, their customers are going to demand that they nod, ever so slightly, to the notion of a robust marketplace of ideas. They are not being treated 'unfairly'.
    Yes, so they have to balance the risk of getting into a gigantic holy war with a bunch of terrorists vs. denying their viewers the right to see an image of Mohammed in a 22-minute cartoon.

    Tough choice.

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    Re: South Park Mohammad Censored

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Oh, so Comedy Central are cowards for being afraid of terrorists, but you're not a coward for being afraid of stalkers and nut cases. Okay.
    No we are not. That is nothing but a fallacy argument.

    Do you honestly think any Muslim would all of a sudden attack a poster on a message board???

    My god man, it's common sense.

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    Re: South Park Mohammad Censored

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yes, so they have to balance the risk of getting into a gigantic holy war with a bunch of terrorists vs. denying their viewers the right to see an image of Mohammed in a 22-minute cartoon.

    Tough choice.
    I still want them to have to make it. Caving in needs to have consequences, whether in the end they decide on balance to do so anyway.

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