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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    We also have to remember that Republicans like Sarah Palin still have shrines of Reagan in their closet.

    However, the cultish behavior is a lot more evident now with Obama. That doesn't make him better or worse though.


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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It has to be Obama. Partisanship has to be involved, because left-wingers are automatically more known to cater to the "cult of personality" because they have Hollywood backing.
    That has to be one of the single most stupid things ever written on this board, ever.

    I would tend to go with Reagan to answer the question. Obama ran on a left wing platform, and was supported by left wingers. Reagan ran on a small government platform, and presided the exact opposite way, and is still enshrined.
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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What force of God? WHERE IS THE MENTION OF A FORCE OF GOD?
    Oh, right, a light from the sky is just... What? An airplane? A helicopter? Maybe the police? Sorry, but what do you think of when someone talks of lights from the sky? UFO's?

    Ah so apostles and politicians have a lot in common according to a book so vague people who believe in its word see God everywhere.
    "People?" See, that's irony because you talk of vagueness, through the use of "people." A fairly vague term in of itself.
    What exactly is your point? That an apostle was a politician or that a politician is an apostle?
    Obama believes that he is filled with an angelic presence.

    Where did Obama say he'd call down heavenly power? Would you stop making **** up? Please? FFS? Try being a little honest in your life. Please?
    Oh, right. Of course, I'm completely wrong. He was saying that he would use some of his secular ability to invoke a light beam from an UFO that would give people an appearance or manifestation, esp. of a deity (i.e. an epiphany).

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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Oh, right. Of course, I'm completely wrong. He was saying that he would use some of his secular ability to invoke a light beam from an UFO that would give people an appearance or manifestation, esp. of a deity (i.e. an epiphany).
    When was this?


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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Oh, right, a light from the sky is just... What? An airplane? A helicopter? Maybe the police? Sorry, but what do you think of when someone talks of lights from the sky? UFO's?
    Ah, so you think Obama was talking about himself being a heavenly being? And because he was clearly using hyperbole regarding how persuasive he must be, then he clearly is? Let me introduce you to the word hyperbole:

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole]Hyperbole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Hyperbole (pronounced /haɪˈpɜrbəli/[1], from ancient Greek ὑπερβολή 'exaggeration') is a rhetorical device in which statements are exaggerated. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.

    Hyperbole is used to create emphasis. It is a literary device often used in poetry, and is frequently encountered in casual speech. On occasion, Newspapers also use Hyperbole when talking of an accident to increase the impact of the article. This is more often found in Tabloid newspapers, who often exaggerate accounts of events to appeal to a wider audience.

    In rhetoric, some opposites of hyperbole are meiosis, litotes, understatement, and bathos (the 'let down' after a hyperbole in a phrase).
    "People?" See, that's irony because you talk of vagueness, through the use of "people." A fairly vague term in of itself.
    If you knew how to read and actually understood what is being said you would see there is no vagueness in my use of the word 'People'. You spoke of people who read the Bible. That is who I was referring to when I quoted your words. Thus : 'a book so vague people who believe in its word see God everywhere'. See how that works? When you understand literary devices, follow conversations and have an average level of reading comprehension, you don't have to rely on soundbites to make cases. You can just debate something above a 6th grade understanding of spoken words.

    Obama believes that he is filled with an angelic presence.

    Oh, right. Of course, I'm completely wrong. He was saying that he would use some of his secular ability to invoke a light beam from an UFO that would give people an appearance or manifestation, esp. of a deity (i.e. an epiphany).
    Show us all proof? Your simpleton interpretation of clear hyperbole is not sufficient.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 04-21-10 at 07:55 PM.
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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    When was this?
    Oh Gawd, don't feed it.
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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh Gawd, don't feed it.
    Pardon my neanderthal mind, was he being sarcastic?


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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Pardon my neanderthal mind, was he being sarcastic?
    No. He doesn't understand how hyperbole works. Obama made a hyperbolic statement regarding his persuasiveness. Our new resident connoisseur of religious statements takes it to mean that Obama thinks he's an angelic being.
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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    When was this?
    Never. It's Hatuey's version of events.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah, so you think Obama was talking about himself being a heavenly being? And because he was clearly using hyperbole regarding how persuasive he must think he is?
    So you agree, but now it is merely the use of hyperbole? You can't say that "no, that's not what Obama was saying," and say "yes, it was what Obama was saying but it was hyperbole."

    You're getting a little sketchy now. Are you sure you don't want to take a break and think up a cleverer story? It's getting a tad embarrassing.



    If you knew how to read and actually understood what is being said you would see there is no vagueness in my use of the word 'People'. You spoke of people who read the Bible.
    Right, "people" is one of the most definite words out there. Right next to "them" and "they" and "the RIGHT WANG CONSPARACY!!!"

    Show us all proof? Your simpleton interpretation of clear hyperbole is not sufficient.
    I'm going to type so charismatically, that a light will freeze your computer and give you an realization that I am, well, right about everything.

    I have thrown myself into a new world—one in which fluffy chatter and frivolous praise are replaced by a get-to-the-point directness and disciple-like devotion. - Elle associate publisher Samantha Fennell

    "When that happens, it will change everything. ... You'll have to measure time
    by `Before Obama' and `After Obama,'" - Spike Lee

    Barack Obama isn't really one of us. Not in the normal way, anyway. - Mark Mortford

    With all of this, just to scratch the surface, praise. Obama has decided to, what, start using hyperbole comparing himself to a divine influence just so he won't be compared to the Messiah? I'm not sure you have any logical sense at this point.

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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Never. It's Hatuey's version of events.
    Somebody doesn't remember what they said.

    So you agree, but now it is merely the use of hyperbole? You can't say that "no, that's not what Obama was saying," and say "yes, it was what Obama was saying but it was hyperbole."

    You're getting a little sketchy now. Are you sure you don't want to take a break and think up a cleverer story? It's getting a tad embarrassing.
    Do you understand how literary devices like hyperbole work? Let's say that by some Pauly Shore-ian miracle, you managed to find a human being who would consider letting you pay them to have sex with you. As you climbed unto the beast (hyperbole #1, not an actual beast - a hyperbolic description of the person) you loudly yelled: 'I'm king of the world!' - You do not actually think, because you do not think, you're king of the world but the statement is made to incite emotion out of your dead partner's cadaver(hyperbole #2 - you would not actually sleep with a dead person but as I am trying to demonstrate how the word hyperbole can be used - it was the only object I could think of as having the constitution to carry out the act).

    Right, "people" is one of the most definite words out there. Right next to "them" and "they" and "the RIGHT WANG CONSPARACY!!!"
    Hyperbolic statement #1 by you! Hey you're getting good at this.

    I'm going to type so charismatically, that a light will freeze your computer and give you an realization that I am, well, right about everything.
    You're getting good at making hyperbolic statements. #2. I'm glad you're getting the hang of this. Exaggeration can really help when writing. Hemingway was great at it. Poe was a true master.

    I have thrown myself into a new world—one in which fluffy chatter and frivolous praise are replaced by a get-to-the-point directness and disciple-like devotion. - Elle associate publisher Samantha Fennell

    "When that happens, it will change everything. ... You'll have to measure time
    by `Before Obama' and `After Obama,'" - Spike Lee

    Barack Obama isn't really one of us. Not in the normal way, anyway. - Mark Mortford

    With all of this, just to scratch the surface, praise. Obama has decided to, what, start using hyperbole comparing himself to a divine influence just so he won't be compared to the Messiah? I'm not sure you have any logical sense at this point.
    Good gosh, I do not know what to say. You seem to be under the impression that you can prove points by throwing up(hyperbolic statement #3 - you're not actually going to throw up) as many random quotes as you possibly can without any sort of context. I do not know how they teach you slightly delayed 8th graders* the ways of the English language but people who do not read Elle Magazine or follow Spike Lee's career as a commentator - do not play into fallacies.

    Here is your homework for the weekend:

    1. Read a book called 'A Hundred Years of Solitude'(no, it is not your future autobiography - it is a book by renown writer Gael Garcia Marquez. It is filled with hyperbole. You should keep in mind that not everyone in Latin American villages has the same last name.

    2. Write a 4 page essay explaining how the hyperbolic statements in the book enhance the desired effect behind the general story.

    3. Finally, present your findings to our panel of literary scholars. 1069, Jallman and donsutherland1 will hand you a final grade which I will write a final comment on.

    * That may or may not be the 4th hyperbolic comment on this post - I do not know what grade you're in - I do know you're slightly delayed though - Your inability to comprehend simple terms like hyperbole tell me so.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 04-21-10 at 08:32 PM.
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