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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    I don't care how much the right-wing says it loves Reagan, they never got signs saying that he was God or Jesus or the Messiah. If Reagan went as far to say that he was some angelic being, or if a leading GOP partisan-hack publication did what the NYT did and showed Reagan with a halo around him; it'd be laughed off the stage.

    Obama wins hands down.
    ..... When did Obama say he was angelic being?
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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    He didn't. His enthralled masses did.

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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ..... When did Obama say he was angelic being?
    "... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
    January 7, 2008.

    As any theologian would tell you, there is only one type of being who has that sort of direct line to God.

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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    We knew a lot about Reagan before he was elected. He was a California Governor and spokesman for GE where he went across the country giving speeches about America and he ran for President before being elected. All of these things put him squarely in the 'KNOWN QUANTITY' category.

    Obama was barely known except for his two books and a year as Senator. His momentum came from his personality around which a cult developed.

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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    "... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
    January 7, 2008.

    As any theologian would tell you, there is only one type of being who has that sort of direct line to God.
    Here is the full quote:

    "My job this morning is to be so persuasive...that a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Barack,"
    .... Still. No mention of Obama saying he was an angelic being. Just you making **** up.
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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    .... Still. No mention of Obama saying he was an angelic being. Just you making **** up.
    My job is to tell you that I will talk so well... A force of God will make you vote for me? What is that supposed to be? Secular? Atheistic?

    If you read the Bible, perhaps you don't (your loss), it says that when the Apostles were able to talk so convincingly that they could convert the masses with just a single speech; that they were filled with (depending on your translation) angelic/holy/otherwise heavenly spirits.

    Now, if Obama was a distinctly secular entity; if he had no Bible background, I'd let it go. But if you read the Gospels, for your whole life, and make speeches about calling down heavenly power with the charisma of your speech, then hell, you aren't calling yourself a run-of-the-mill human being.

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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    You can't get more than 3 Republicans together without them starting a Reagan Circle Jerk, so I am going to have to say that Reagan has the bigger cult of personality thing going.

    After all, every single Republican debate in 2008 started off with each candidate going into about how much they like Reagan, are like Reagan, and how much Reagan would like them. Mao did not have the kind of party devotion that Reagan enjoys. It is by far Reagan.
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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Reagan was a cult of personality, but he walked the walk. I do not see how he can be compared to Obama this way. Reagan was outspoken about smaller government and personal freedom, along with personal responsibility.

    Yes, I know, Reagan did turn out to be a spender, but that spending resulted in the defeat of Communism. He bankrupted the Soviets, because they just were not able to keep up without wrecking their economy. THAT spending I can live with, as it made the world a safer place.

    Obama, on the other hand, has not kept too many of his promises. I know that he inherited a huge mess from Bush, but he is actually making it worse. He is all personality and no substance, IMHO.
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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    My job is to tell you that I will talk so well... A force of God will make you vote for me? What is that supposed to be? Secular? Atheistic?
    What force of God? WHERE IS THE MENTION OF A FORCE OF GOD?

    If you read the Bible, perhaps you don't (your loss), it says that when the Apostles were able to talk so convincingly that they could convert the masses with just a single speech; that they were filled with (depending on your translation) angelic/holy/otherwise heavenly spirits.
    Ah so apostles and politicians have a lot in common according to a book so vague people who believe in its word see God everywhere. What exactly is your point? That an apostle was a politician or that a politician is an apostle?

    Now, if Obama was a distinctly secular entity; if he had no Bible background, I'd let it go. But if you read the Gospels, for your whole life, and make speeches about calling down heavenly power with the charisma of your speech, then hell, you aren't calling yourself a run-of-the-mill human being.
    Where did Obama say he'd call down heavenly power? Would you stop making **** up? Please? FFS? Try being a little honest in your life. Please?
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    Re: Reagan vs. Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Reagan was a cult of personality, but he walked the walk. I do not see how he can be compared to Obama this way. Reagan was outspoken about smaller government and personal freedom, along with personal responsibility.

    Yes, I know, Reagan did turn out to be a spender, but that spending resulted in the defeat of Communism. He bankrupted the Soviets, because they just were not able to keep up without wrecking their economy. THAT spending I can live with, as it made the world a safer place.

    Obama, on the other hand, has not kept too many of his promises. I know that he inherited a huge mess from Bush, but he is actually making it worse. He is all personality and no substance, IMHO.
    Hmmm...

    Have you visited the website PoliticFact.com? They keep track of all of Pres. Obama's campaign promises. So far, he has kept 108 promises, broken 19 and compromised on 34. I'd say that's a pretty good track record despite having 83 promises stalled, 257 in the works and 3 not yet rated.

    As to this cultist personality issue, I'd have to give it to Obama only because he began to amass followers before he even became President.

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