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Thread: Self Defense v. Animal Cruelty

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    Re: Self Defense v. Animal Cruelty

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    The problem is not the dogs, its their pack "leaders", the humans.
    They should never be allowed to own any animals, but should have all of "their" dogs taken away and likely, put under..
    Vigilantism is tempting and maybe the only answer if the state/local government is not willing to do anything. And its these low-life dog owners who make things bad, and expensive for responsible animals owners.
    I know and I agree that the owners should never be allowed to have another animal and should be held accountable for what happened to that poor wallaby. The dogs will certainly need to be put down if they can catch them. They are obviously a danger to any living creature smaller and weaker than themselves. Next time it might be a defenseless child they decide to maul.




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    Re: Self Defense v. Animal Cruelty

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    I know and I agree that the owners should never be allowed to have another animal and should be held accountable for what happened to that poor wallaby. The dogs will certainly need to be put down if they can catch them. They are obviously a danger to any living creature smaller and weaker than themselves. Next time it might be a defenseless child they decide to maul.
    This may have happened already, I have heard of very similar things.
    Many if not all states are doing something about this, which costs money, increases taxes and makes government bigger, exactly what the tea baggers do not want.
    I wonder if they ever think of these things at their protests and rallies?

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    Re: Self Defense v. Animal Cruelty

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    This may have happened already, I have heard of very similar things.
    Many if not all states are doing something about this, which costs money, increases taxes and makes government bigger, exactly what the tea baggers do not want.
    I wonder if they ever think of these things at their protests and rallies?

    Small government is not synonymous with no government and most people realize that some government intervention is necessary, even those belonging to the Tea Party Movement.

    Regardless, I hope they do catch and put down those dogs before it's too late for another small animal or child.





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    Re: Self Defense v. Animal Cruelty

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Do you think there should be exceptions - if there aren't already - in animal cruelty laws for what could be considered self defense?

    For example, if you are in some public place that is frequented by Canada geese and somebody there finds himself being chased/pecked at/etc by one, despite knowing he isn't anywhere near a nest, and decides to kick the goose (injuring it or inadvertently killing it) and escaping (as in not sticking around to kick, stomp, or further deface the body of the goose) to get help. Would that be considered self defense to you?

    At the college I go to, we have a huge goose problem - Canada geese that didn't migrate this year. They are everywhere - literally hundreds of them eating, honking, and sh*tting. Now mating season has come, and they are getting aggressive. I mapped out where the nests are - aside from one or two right now, I know most of them are on roofs away from the public.

    Even still, issues arise - one guy was cut up pretty badly a few weeks ago by an aggressive goose, and I've had geese following me, hissing and honking madly in front of buildings where the nests were on the roof, not at ground level, and it is such where I am beginning to consider the circumstances of being cornered, or in any other situation where force is necessary to get out of it, what to do, consequences, etc, and am confused / unsure about it all, especially seeing videos of goose attacks online.
    I think if you take out one of those ****ing geese, you should be given a medal for doing a public service. They are some of the nastiest and most aggressive creatures you'll ever encounter. On a scale of rabbit to grizzly bear, they fall somewhere between rabid raccoon and badger with young.

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    Re: Self Defense v. Animal Cruelty

    Resurrecting this thread - it is that time of year again.

    The other day I was trying to get in to one of the buildings on campus, a goose chased, flew at me. The nest was nowhere near the building entrance [even on the roof maybe]. Next time, I'm carrying a baseball bat or something, **** campus seucirty - and the school - they don't do a damn thing to protect us.
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    Re: Self Defense v. Animal Cruelty

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    This may have happened already, I have heard of very similar things.
    Many if not all states are doing something about this, which costs money, increases taxes and makes government bigger, exactly what the tea baggers do not want.
    I wonder if they ever think of these things at their protests and rallies?
    I didn't know the tea party was against state and local government solving their own problems by what ever means they see fit.
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    Re: Self Defense v. Animal Cruelty

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Do you think there should be exceptions - if there aren't already - in animal cruelty laws for what could be considered self defense?

    For example, if you are in some public place that is frequented by Canada geese and somebody there finds himself being chased/pecked at/etc by one, despite knowing he isn't anywhere near a nest, and decides to kick the goose (injuring it or inadvertently killing it) and escaping (as in not sticking around to kick, stomp, or further deface the body of the goose) to get help. Would that be considered self defense to you?

    At the college I go to, we have a huge goose problem - Canada geese that didn't migrate this year. They are everywhere - literally hundreds of them eating, honking, and sh*tting. Now mating season has come, and they are getting aggressive. I mapped out where the nests are - aside from one or two right now, I know most of them are on roofs away from the public.

    Even still, issues arise - one guy was cut up pretty badly a few weeks ago by an aggressive goose, and I've had geese following me, hissing and honking madly in front of buildings where the nests were on the roof, not at ground level, and it is such where I am beginning to consider the circumstances of being cornered, or in any other situation where force is necessary to get out of it, what to do, consequences, etc, and am confused / unsure about it all, especially seeing videos of goose attacks online.
    I hate those god damned animals! They're a public nusance and should be disposed of.
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