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    Re: America's Superpower "Burden"

    It's a worthwhile burden whose benefits outweigh the costs.

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    Re: America's Superpower "Burden"

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    We know terrorists have attacked several European countries. It doesn't have to be an immediate threat, threats will rise up in the future. If anything Russia and Iran pose threats to Europe currently.
    Terrorists were attacking the UK long before 9/11.
    The US gave them a great deal of money and did very little to help the UK.

    Russia is no immediate threat to Europe they supply Europe with gas and oil.
    Iran hates the UK because it is an ally of the US.
    The only real threat that Iran could pose for Europe is to give Islamic terrorists a dirty or small nuclear device...see above.

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    Re: America's Superpower "Burden"

    Quote Originally Posted by angrybeaver View Post
    Terrorists were attacking the UK long before 9/11.
    The US gave them a great deal of money and did very little to help the UK.

    Russia is no immediate threat to Europe they supply Europe with gas and oil.
    Iran hates the UK because it is an ally of the US.
    The only real threat that Iran could pose for Europe is to give Islamic terrorists a dirty or small nuclear device...see above.
    Isn't giving a great deal of money helping? We paid them to help themselves and they really didn't do much with it.

    I'm talking about the future, conflicts are bound to happen. WWII happened and America had to bail out Europe. Much of Europe is liberal and very pacifistic. That same mentality led to Hitler rising and being able to start WWII.

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    Re: America's Superpower "Burden"

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Isn't giving a great deal of money helping? We paid them to help themselves and they really didn't do much with it.

    I'm talking about the future, conflicts are bound to happen. WWII happened and America had to bail out Europe. Much of Europe is liberal and very pacifistic. That same mentality led to Hitler rising and being able to start WWII.
    the IRA did a great deal with the money they got from the US.
    They blew quite a few people up and shot quite a few soldiers with it.

    The US did not exactly bail out Europe, it was in their interest to join Britain and Russia in destroying the third reich and the Japanese.
    I am not knocking the US. Without Britain and its empire, USSR and the US the Nazis would have dominated Europe Africa and Western Asia
    Without any of the three, Hitler would have prevailed .

    I do agree that Europe sat back and allowed the US to protect us from the USSR.

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    Re: America's Superpower "Burden"

    It is a burden in two ways, as I see it.

    One is that some other countries automatically looks to the U.S. for support or a reaction. I guess that's a good thing as long as we can deliver. If we don't deliver its even worse

    The other is that it further fuels obnoxious pro-American sentiment. The reason I say that its obnoxious is because many Americans use the over-utilized "we saved you guys in the war." Therefore many Americans walk around with the notion that our country deserves more respect, or it deserves respect first over other nations.

    The second a president doesn't live up to these burdensome standards, he is criticized, and that's been the case for the last 15 to 20 presidencies.
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    Re: America's Superpower "Burden"

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    We don't need to get involved in other people's affairs and we don't. We do things for our strategic advantage, and not much more. When their was a genocide going down in Rwanda, Darfur, what did the US do? Nothing. If we were the champions of democracy and world's policeman we should have gotten involved. But because we are not liberators we don't share much of a burden. Anything we do is for our own sake and no one elses, and that is what the world gets upset at. They only wish they could have our strength to go invade their neighbors without the worry of the US bombing them for trying to challenge our rule.
    And this all upsets you terribly doesn't it?
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    Re: America's Superpower "Burden"

    Britains just think the 'we saved your asses in WW2 amusing and think that the Americans get their history of WW2 from Errol Flynn movies, the Russians dont even call it World war 2 they call it the great patriotic war and no one else except themselves played a major part in it.
    The French think that the German occupation was a chance for their women to soften up the Germans by shagging them until General De Gaulle saved them.
    Only Americans think they saved everyones asses in WW2.
    The Americans proved they were a warrior nation during WW2 and should be extremely proud of the contribution that they gave against the threat of the Axis powers..but they did not do it on their own
    However the Americans can IMO claim that they did hold back the Communist threat near enough on their own .
    They didnt do it because they loved Europe but they did do it virtually on their own

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    Re: America's Superpower "Burden"

    Well of course, but how else could we dominate other countries to defend our rights to their resources.

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    Re: America's Superpower "Burden"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    All things considered, is being a world's Military superpower a burden on America?

    Obama yet again is getting heat from the right for his remarks at the Nuclear Summit.

    "It is a vital national security interest of the United States to reduce these conflicts because whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower, and when conflicts break out, one way or another we get pulled into them," Obama said. "And that ends up costing us significantly in terms of both blood and treasure."



    IMO, yes it is a burden, and Obama summed it up in one sentence. We lose American lives and spend money we barely have on our military (around $1 trillion a year, last I heard). We spend more on our military than the next top 10 countries COMBINED! And for what? So we can be the world police? Yes, our causes are often just, but should it be our job to be the Democracy Crusaders? Why should we be the ones who send the most troops... spend the most money... lose the most lives? We've spent more than a trillion dollars on Iraq. I wonder what kinds of things we could have done with that money back home? Maybe given the tax payers another break? I feel Obama's comments were absolutely appropriate and the right IMO is just too proud to agree with him. Either that or they're just trying to find one more ridiculous thing to make fun of him for.
    It is inevitable the China will soon surpass America as a superpower like we are standing still.

    Simple math and population capacity producing economic power shows this.

    China becoming more of a capitalistic and changing from its ancient ways are going to make it iminent that China will soon become the worlds largest superpower by a longshot.

    America will actually be the third ranking superpower within 20 yrs and China will overshadow everyone...

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    Re: America's Superpower "Burden"

    Quote Originally Posted by angrybeaver View Post
    the IRA did a great deal with the money they got from the US.
    They blew quite a few people up and shot quite a few soldiers with it.

    The US did not exactly bail out Europe, it was in their interest to join Britain and Russia in destroying the third reich and the Japanese.
    I am not knocking the US. Without Britain and its empire, USSR and the US the Nazis would have dominated Europe Africa and Western Asia
    Without any of the three, Hitler would have prevailed .

    I do agree that Europe sat back and allowed the US to protect us from the USSR.

    I can agree with a lot of what you said. However, I think much of the world slacks of intentionally on military spending because they know America will help them out.

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