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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Because they work hard and shouldn't have to pay a higher percentage than others. We punish success by forcing the rich to unfairly pay more percentage wise than the average person. Why should the government be allowed to confiscate their money at a higher rate than others?
    I'll play the devil's advocate and say that it's a classic case of Robin Hood, but on a larger scale. Take from the rich, give to the needy. Tax the rich high, give the poor a break. It helps keep the money evenly dispersed. The money the government taxes will most likely go to improving the lives of the most poor, in today's system (food stamps, newly passed health care reform, funding for public schools, unemployment benefits).
    "All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language...No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." - John Donne

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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    I'll play the devil's advocate and say that it's a classic case of Robin Hood, but on a larger scale. Take from the rich, give to the needy. Tax the rich high, give the poor a break. It helps keep the money evenly dispersed. The money the government taxes will most likely go to improving the lives of the most poor, in today's system (food stamps, newly passed health care reform, funding for public schools, unemployment benefits).
    Why should the money be evenly dispersed in the first place though? Everyone's wealth isn't the property of the government to spread and make it all "equal." The majority of rich people are rich because they went to college, earned a masters/PhD/MD and work very hard. Why should the government take from them and give it to those who have less? I am all for helping the needy, but I am also for helping them rise out of being needy and enter into a life of prosperity through education and hard work. I personally believe in having a fair flat tax. We should be able to earn and succeed and pay a set percent amount that everyone must pay.
    Last edited by digsbe; 04-15-10 at 09:01 PM.

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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Huh? Religion should have nothing to do with politics or government.


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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Only corporations should pay income tax.
    How do you figure?

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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Welfare, food stamps and other such programs have been around for decades. Has the poverty rate gone down?


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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Welfare, food stamps and other such programs have been around for decades. Has the poverty rate gone down?
    Actually, it has. From roughly 23% in 1960 to 13.2% in 2008.

    http://www.census.gov/prod/2009pubs/p60-236.pdf
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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Actually, it has. From roughly 23% in 1960 to 13.2% in 2008.

    http://www.census.gov/prod/2009pubs/p60-236.pdf
    That's not really saying the full story though. The poverty rates fluctuated through those years. As it looks right now the poverty rate is rising.

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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That's not really saying the full story though. The poverty rates fluctuated through those years. As it looks right now the poverty rate is rising.
    Generally speaking, the poverty rate has been higher in a recession, and the poverty rate was a foreboding variable meaning it began to rise before the recession had developed. They do not have the most recent data for a recession, but I'm sure it rose higher.

    Otherwise, it has been steadily decreasing.
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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Generally speaking, the poverty rate has been higher in a recession, and the poverty rate was a foreboding variable meaning it began to rise before the recession had developed. They do not have the most recent data for a recession, but I'm sure it rose higher.

    Otherwise, it has been steadily decreasing.
    There has been a net dicrease sense the 60's. Looking at the graph though the rate in 2007 was similar to what is was in 1975. I think it hasn't drastically gone up or gone down, but it has decreased and stayed within a margin sense the 1660s.

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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    There has been a net dicrease sense the 60's. Looking at the graph though the rate in 2007 was similar to what is was in 1975. I think it hasn't drastically gone up or gone down, but it has decreased and stayed within a margin sense the 1660s.
    You are looking at the wrong line. The top line is the amount of people in poverty. It is the same amount as in 1960. That's actually good all things considered, since we had nearly 125 million more people in 2008.

    You should instead focus on the bottom line, the percentage of people in the USA in poverty.
    "All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language...No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." - John Donne

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