View Poll Results: Should ALL citizens have to pay income taxes?

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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Everybody does pay payroll taxes, the lower income earners, disproportionately so.

    I don't think everybody should have to pay income taxes. Indeed the earned income tax credit means many low wage earners actually get money back, it's is a form of I.R.S. administered welfare for the working poor that was preferred by Presidents Reagan, Clinton and Bush.
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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i tend to think that wages shoudn't be taxed, but unearned income should be.
    like the handouts that dems give people so they will vote for dem politicians?

    what is "unearned income" a guy busting his arse for 20 years to build a business and then profiting from the business?

    There should be no taxes on income--it gives congress too much power



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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Everybody does pay payroll taxes, the lower income earners, disproportionately so.

    I don't think everybody should have to pay income taxes. Indeed the earned income tax credit means many low wage earners actually get money back, it's is a form of I.R.S. administered welfare for the working poor that was preferred by Presidents Reagan, Clinton and Bush.
    should people who have nothing at stake have the same say as those who do?

    If the government makes some bear a heavier burden than others why shouldn't those who carry more of the load be given de jure privileges for their contributions



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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Then the parent making more than 20K a year gets full custody.

    And nice try on baiting me. Maybe you should think a little harder. You fail.
    Not baiting you, correcting your apparent inability or unwillingness to think things through, rather than throwing out simplistic one-liners as if they were workable solutions.

    Suppose the other parent makes even less money? Suppose the other parent was abusive, a druggie, etc?

    I suppose now you'll say "take the kids away and put them in foster care."

    How about an 80 year old, widowed Grandma, with a $16k a year income from retirement funds, who can barely afford her medicine and supplemental insurance? Gonna tax her 10 or 20% that she can't afford to pay too?

    I'm not saying that something close to flat tax could not be viable, with a little adjustment. I'm saying that nobody's tax bill should push their head underwater.

    To achieve that, we have to leave just a smidge of flexibility where the poorest 20% of the population are concerned.

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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Unearned like welfare? Not being an ass, I am not certain what you are saying.
    I'm thinking she may mean "passive" income like capital gains and investment profits etc. Or maybe profits made from selling personal property. I dunno- that's the impression I have.
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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Unearned like welfare? Not being an ass, I am not certain what you are saying.
    It means things like stock dividends, interest, rent received from a rental property, etc.

    Not sure why it merits different treatment, other than for class warfare purposes ...
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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    It means things like stock dividends, interest, rent received from a rental property, etc.
    I would not have to much problem with that. It's the income tax that burns me.
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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    It means things like stock dividends, interest, rent received from a rental property, etc.
    I expect you're right, but I'm not sure we need to be calling that UNearned.

    Somebody originally earned the money to buy the stock, the rental properties, etc... and putting your money back into capital is better for everyone than hiding it in the mattress.

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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm thinking she may mean "passive" income like capital gains and investment profits etc. Or maybe profits made from selling personal property. I dunno- that's the impression I have.
    Yea I got it, thanks Lizzie.
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    Re: Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I would not have to much problem with that. It's the income tax that burns me.
    It is part of your 1040 form that's due every year, so it is actually a part of that.

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