View Poll Results: Is affirmative action necessary in today's society?

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  • Yes, it bridges the disparity between minority and non-minority students and workers

    6 7.59%
  • Yes, it is important for the social welfare and diversity of the country

    6 7.59%
  • No, it encourages individuals to identify themselves as "disadvantaged"

    35 44.30%
  • No, it provides a basis for "reverse-discrimination"

    50 63.29%
  • No, it is devalues the accomplishments of both those who it benefits and those it does not

    45 56.96%
  • It is necessary for gender, but not race

    2 2.53%
  • It is necessary for race, but not gender

    1 1.27%
  • Other, please specify

    11 13.92%
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I know we are not our multiple great grandparents but what are we trying to do to wipe out racism and make it better? I have to say that Affirmative Action is one of the ways?
    So how does giving a job to a black guy over a racist white guy make the racist white guy any less racist?

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    And is that because they're black or because they have babies at the age of 15? They make their own choices. There's nothing in society today keeping them down except themselves.
    notable in that you refuse to recognize that whites are the biggest recipients of federal welfare
    so, why is it the white female has a net worth of $42,000 and the black counterpart's net worth is $5
    try blaming the victim one more time
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    yes, good idea, punish an entire race for the crimes of a minority within that race.
    Give me a break. Affirmative Action is not some way to punish the poor ole white skinned in this country. It is a way to make sure that there is a check and balance in place. Maybe saying it like that will make you understand this.

    So some of you wish to go back to the days where you cannot hire someone based on skin color, gender or age? Really? Is that what you want? You better be very careful what your wishes are cause it may blow up in your face. One day the white male folks may need some sort of program like this and we will see what ya have to say about that
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Give me a break. Affirmative Action is not some way to punish the poor ole white skinned in this country. It is a way to make sure that there is a check and balance in place. Maybe saying it like that will make you understand this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Cry me a river. It may upset some lily white person because a black person got a job over A.A. Guess they/whites shoulda thought about that before they decided to frigging enslave people!

    This is an action in reguards to trying to clean up the mess that the poor ole white man created. Do I give a crap if this makes some white white collar worker resentful? Hell frigging no. More like How Does It Feel! HA!
    So which is it? Punishment or not?

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Give me a break. Affirmative Action is not some way to punish the poor ole white skinned in this country. It is a way to make sure that there is a check and balance in place. Maybe saying it like that will make you understand this.

    So some of you wish to go back to the days where you cannot hire someone based on skin color, gender or age? Really? Is that what you want? You better be very careful what your wishes are cause it may blow up in your face. One day the white male folks may need some sort of program like this and we will see what ya have to say about that

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    notable in that you refuse to recognize that whites are the biggest recipients of federal welfare
    so, why is it the white female has a net worth of $42,000 and the black counterpart's net worth is $5
    try blaming the victim one more time
    Which would be expected since whites make up most of the population. Hence, the designation "majority."

    Unfortunately, sometimes it's the victims fault. A black female has more opportunity to get out of the ghetto than a white female.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    If you aren't aware yet that a large majority of human kind would rather live in squalor than work to get out, you need to experience more.

    I'm sure they want to get out. They just don't want to work hard enough to do it. And less you think I reek of racism, this applies to all people in the ghetto.
    But see I do not buy into this myth that people living in the ghetto do not wish to get out. We need to have more social programs to help them get some kind of job skill training or college, help them with learning how to get a job and also help them with clothing to get that job. Some of them feel stuck and it is the only life they know. We need programs to help expose them to other ways to live and let them know you CAN make it. We also need more mental health programs to help these people deal.

    Agree: they want to get out and do not agree with they do not want to work. Are there some that are just lazy ass and do not want to strike a lick? Sure. But in my heart know a lot of them do want to get out but do not know how. They really feel trapped and as if that is their only way. I bet if we could go around and interview people and ask them? I bet at least 85- 90% would say they WANT to get out. The key is figuring out how to get them to DO It.

    The living conditions that some of these people are in must have a real play on their self-esteem and they feel worthless, hopeless, etc. They feel trapped. We must find a way to show them they are Worthy of better and we must find a way to get em out if they want out.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Give me a break. Affirmative Action is not some way to punish the poor ole white skinned in this country. It is a way to make sure that there is a check and balance in place. Maybe saying it like that will make you understand this.

    So some of you wish to go back to the days where you cannot hire someone based on skin color, gender or age? Really? Is that what you want? You better be very careful what your wishes are cause it may blow up in your face. One day the white male folks may need some sort of program like this and we will see what ya have to say about that
    either way i'm against it, you can't just say that someone deserves an advantage for no reason other than the colour of their skin, its still racial discrimination no matter which way you look at it
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So which is it? Punishment or not?
    I do not see it as punishment but I do get a bit gleeful knowing that it pisses the racist white males off. So sue me

    BTW, your not replying to the rest of my post is telling. I will give it to ya again:

    So some of you wish to go back to the days where you cannot hire someone based on skin color, gender or age? Really? Is that what you want? You better be very careful what your wishes are cause it may blow up in your face. One day the white male folks may need some sort of program like this and we will see what ya have to say about that.


    So lets hear what ya have to say about that?
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I do not see it as punishment but I do get a bit gleeful knowing that it pisses the racist white males off. So sue me
    What about the non-racist ones? Do you think AA only affects racists?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    BTW, your not replying to the rest of my post is telling.
    Telling of what?
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    I will give it to ya again:

    So some of you wish to go back to the days where you cannot hire someone based on skin color, gender or age? Really? Is that what you want? You better be very careful what your wishes are cause it may blow up in your face. One day the white male folks may need some sort of program like this and we will see what ya have to say about that.


    So lets hear what ya have to say about that?
    Nothing really, other than that it makes you sound more vindictive than rational.

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