View Poll Results: Is affirmative action necessary in today's society?

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  • Yes, it bridges the disparity between minority and non-minority students and workers

    6 7.59%
  • Yes, it is important for the social welfare and diversity of the country

    6 7.59%
  • No, it encourages individuals to identify themselves as "disadvantaged"

    35 44.30%
  • No, it provides a basis for "reverse-discrimination"

    50 63.29%
  • No, it is devalues the accomplishments of both those who it benefits and those it does not

    45 56.96%
  • It is necessary for gender, but not race

    2 2.53%
  • It is necessary for race, but not gender

    1 1.27%
  • Other, please specify

    11 13.92%
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I had a 2.9 when I graduated from college. I guess that makes me an uber-loafer.
    Self-deprecating posts that demolish credibility. Sweet.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I had a 2.9 when I graduated from college. I guess that makes me an uber-loafer.
    Or a regular student. Welcome to the average American, lol.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by 61 Electric Bron-Yr-Aur View Post
    Self-deprecating posts that demolish credibility. Sweet.
    You have got to be kidding?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I had a 2.9 when I graduated from college. I guess that makes me an uber-loafer.
    no, that explains your expertise about distilled spirits
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by 61 Electric Bron-Yr-Aur View Post
    Self-deprecating posts that demolish credibility. Sweet.
    Academics weren't my priority. I was majoring in sorority at the time.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no, that explains your expertise about distilled spirits
    Indeed. Plus, my work as social chairman for my sorority. Mixed drinks were my speciality. And intrafraternity relations.

    A few years ago, I was tracking my kids' activities on myspace and made contact with a guy who looked very familiar to me from college. I messaged him to say hi, and said something like, "I'm sure we crossed paths."

    Indeed, we did...I apparently had sex with him.

    He said, "Don't worry...I think college was a bit of a giddy whirl for you."

    He hit the mark with that comment.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by 61 Electric Bron-Yr-Aur View Post
    Self-deprecating posts that demolish credibility. Sweet.
    The only people who care about GPA are those who have no social lives. Within a year of graduating from college, no one will give a flying ****.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's a nice thought. Seriously, it is. But, have you spent much time in inner city schools? I'm kinda thinking you haven't. There are a lot of failing school districts out there where kids are learning in substandard conditions and being taught by substandard teachers. And all too many of those kids live in substandard conditions at home...in fact, conditions that would make it impossible for anyone to learn.

    Not everyone is dealt the same hand at birth.

    I agree that affirmative action is outdated and needs to be phased out. But your post demonstrates a serious lack of information about how some kids live in America today.
    First hand? No. My best friend teaches middle school in the inner city though. Even given her tendency to exaggerate, it's not that bad. Certainly not to the degree that it would prevent a kid from getting a decent grade if they tried hard enough.

    Impossible is a strong word and indicates a serious inability to look at a situation objectively. Oh look, I can subtly insult you too.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    First hand? No. My best friend teaches middle school in the inner city though. Even given her tendency to exaggerate, it's not that bad. Certainly not to the degree that it would prevent a kid from getting a decent grade if they tried hard enough.

    Impossible is a strong word and indicates a serious inability to look at a situation objectively. Oh look, I can subtly insult you too.
    It may not be that bad at her school, but it's definitely been beyond bad at some of the schools I've worked at...black mold, endangering their health. 80% of students reading below grade level.

    I can read your post and tell that you've not seen much in the inner city.

    To be blunt, because I'm certainly not trying to offer up veiled insults: I don't think you have any experience with this subject. So, your opinion, while interesting, doesn't really have any basis.

    You think any kid can learn. Great. So do I. The problem is that in order for every kid to learn, we'd have to fix up some pretty cluster****ed scenarios.

    It's hard to learn when you've never been to the dentist in your life and you have a rotten tooth and are in constant pain.

    It's hard to learn when you have bad vision, can't see the chalkboard, and your parents can't afford glasses.

    It's hard to learn when you've been exposed to lots of trauma at home because your mom is a hooker and gets beaten up regularly.

    It's hard to learn when your mom is a junkie and you've been shuttled between 3 or 4 different homes and in and out of the foster care system.

    It's hard to learn when mom deals dope out of your living room.

    It's hard to learn when you hear gunshots every night in your neighborhood.

    It's hard to learn when you get beaten up walking to and from school.

    It's hard to learn when you have undiagnosed learning disabilities.

    It's hard to learn when you were never taught to read in elementary school.

    It's hard to learn when your dad is in prison and you haven't seen him in years, and your mom has had a succession of boyfriends in and out of your house, some of whom have beaten you up and/or molested you.

    It's hard to learn when you're in a dangerous school in a community that resembles a war zone.

    Those things don't compute for the average suburbanite, but they are very real for a lot of the kids I've worked with.

    I'll tell ya what. I'll be working in east, south and central Los Angeles in June (Newton, Rampart, and Ramona Gardens). You're welcome to tag along with me.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    It may not be that bad at her school, but it's definitely been beyond bad at some of the schools I've worked at...black mold, endangering their health. 80% of students reading below grade level.

    I can read your post and tell that you've not seen much in the inner city.
    I can read your post and tell you've offered no evidence that even begins to suggest why black mold would prevent a kid from getting a decent grade if they tried. Outdated books? English hasn't changed all that much in 15 years. Crappy teacher? Good thing that parental involvement is a such a strong indicator of acadamic success.
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