View Poll Results: Is affirmative action necessary in today's society?

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  • Yes, it bridges the disparity between minority and non-minority students and workers

    6 7.59%
  • Yes, it is important for the social welfare and diversity of the country

    6 7.59%
  • No, it encourages individuals to identify themselves as "disadvantaged"

    35 44.30%
  • No, it provides a basis for "reverse-discrimination"

    50 63.29%
  • No, it is devalues the accomplishments of both those who it benefits and those it does not

    45 56.96%
  • It is necessary for gender, but not race

    2 2.53%
  • It is necessary for race, but not gender

    1 1.27%
  • Other, please specify

    11 13.92%
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Masses, but you're not interested in hearing about it, otherwise you'd be able to find it at the click of a mouse.
    If you've never lived here, you don't know what it's like. You have no voice on the matter.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by 61 Electric Bron-Yr-Aur View Post
    If you've never lived here, you don't know what it's like. You have no voice on the matter.
    If he has sufficient data, as he claims, he can debate this issue as well or better than you can.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I see. So before the first attempts at AA (how long ago was that? 20 years?) there was no discrimination? Black people, women and LGBT people always had the same access and opportunities that the good 'ol white, hetero boys had. It was AA caused all the trouble.

    You saying discrimination doesn't exist? Or are you saying that it does exist but nothing should be done about it? I'm guessing the latter.

    The knee's still hurting like a b****rd, BTW.
    As long as humans exist, discrimination will exist on the individual level. Discrimination based on everything imaginable. I've experienced sexism myself, most women have. Don't hear me whining to the government asking for special favors because there are a few ****wads out there though. We don't need the government's help.

    Yeah, some idiots discriminate for any number of reasons. But employers should be free to hire whomever they wish for whatever reason they wish. That's their prerogative. The government should never force a company to BE sexist and/or racist the way they do with AA. It's absolutely insane to try and stop racism/sexism with racism and sexism. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    On top of how insane it is, it's ****ing insulting. I don't need a stepstool. I don't need training wheels. I don't need a govt mandated advantage over anyone else. The implication that because I have tits, I need help getting a job or an education is seriously insulting.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    If he has sufficient data, as he claims, he can debate this issue as well or better than you can.
    Yeah, data/stats provided by biased sources on the incredibly reliable internet really paint an accurate picture of American society.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by 61 Electric Bron-Yr-Aur View Post
    If you've never lived here, you don't know what it's like. You have no voice on the matter.
    Any proof this is a discussion only about AA in the US? Take your chauvinism to another forum.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Any proof this is a discussion only about AA in the US? Take your chauvinism to another forum.
    I was talking about the greatest country on Earth. You interjected with your Euro drivel. Sorry to hear that the Euros aren't as egalitarian as I presumed.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by 61 Electric Bron-Yr-Aur View Post
    I was talking about the greatest country on Earth. You interjected with your Euro drivel. Sorry to hear that the Euros aren't as egalitarian as I presumed.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    If he has sufficient data, as he claims, he can debate this issue as well or better than you can.
    You're quite right. I can, but that doesn't mean I will attempt to debate with just anyone. The guy in question doesn't seem like he's serious about the issue. Rivrrat, while we agree about hardly anything, KNOWS how to debate. Perhaps you do too, although I've not debated with you before now. Peace! And see you later.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You're quite right. I can, but that doesn't mean I will attempt to debate with just anyone. The guy in question doesn't seem like he's serious about the issue. Rivrrat, while we agree about hardly anything, KNOWS how to debate. Perhaps you do too, although I've not debated with you before now. Peace! And see you later.
    I do but I'm very lazy. We may debate at some point in the future, because I'm sure we disagree on many things. I don't mind disagreeing but I like things to be civil.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You're quite right. I can, but that doesn't mean I will attempt to debate with just anyone. The guy in question doesn't seem like he's serious about the issue. Rivrrat, while we agree about hardly anything, KNOWS how to debate. Perhaps you do too, although I've not debated with you before now. Peace! And see you later.
    I'm very serious, but I wouldn't debate a Euro about what goes on in Euroland. I don't live there, and I have a proclivity to distrust random internet articles. Peace!

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