View Poll Results: Is affirmative action necessary in today's society?

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  • Yes, it bridges the disparity between minority and non-minority students and workers

    6 7.59%
  • Yes, it is important for the social welfare and diversity of the country

    6 7.59%
  • No, it encourages individuals to identify themselves as "disadvantaged"

    35 44.30%
  • No, it provides a basis for "reverse-discrimination"

    50 63.29%
  • No, it is devalues the accomplishments of both those who it benefits and those it does not

    45 56.96%
  • It is necessary for gender, but not race

    2 2.53%
  • It is necessary for race, but not gender

    1 1.27%
  • Other, please specify

    11 13.92%
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    Re: Affirmative Action

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    It's funny cuz it's true!

    For real though, they make the best pie. mmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Chris Rock makes his living off making racist jokes. He is a really good example. Not.

    Also it is telling how you call people of your own race "niggaz".. Says a lot about you.
    Yea it says I know the difference between a black and a nigga. I also know the difference between a redneck and a white person.

    So what does your statement say about you???
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Bill Cosby was attacked because he seems to have fallen out of touch with his own culture. He is just another old geezer who does not "get" the younger generation.
    Your ahem, white. What do you know about my culture I don't already know?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The fact that quotas existed for years. And top law and medical schools were given places to blacks with scores that no white gained admittance with., one poster noted that being black counted more at some Ivies than being a legacy. That is true (BTW in my college class legacies had higher averages overall then non legacies) Legacy admissions fund smart but lower middle class kids being able to go to uber-expensive places like Williams or Harvard. Selecting underqualified minorities benefits no one and causes alot of resentment
    I don't know if you saw this where you went, but there were a ton of black students who washed out after their first year. What I'm trying to figure out is how it helps to give a minority student who doesn't have what it takes to make it to graduation tens of thousands of dollars in student loans and jack **** to show for it.

    Of course the schools are all for this ...

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I don't know if you saw this where you went, but there were a ton of black students who washed out after their first year. What I'm trying to figure out is how it helps to give a minority student who doesn't have what it takes to make it to graduation tens of thousands of dollars in student loans and jack **** to show for it.

    Of course the schools are all for this ...
    As long as they get the Federal funds, they don't give a **** one way or the other.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I don't know if you saw this where you went, but there were a ton of black students who washed out after their first year. What I'm trying to figure out is how it helps to give a minority student who doesn't have what it takes to make it to graduation tens of thousands of dollars in student loans and jack **** to show for it.

    Of course the schools are all for this ...
    true. and they would have been fine if they had gone to a school full of people in their same league. The ivies make it hard to flunk out-the saying at Yale was only the truly brilliant failed (I will name a few-NR Editor Richard Vigilante, Federalist founder Lee Liberman [she actually graduated summa because that was based on number of a's-she skipped three exams at got 3 F's and offered 36 A's for graduation)

    but I saw lots of AA's struggle



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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true. and they would have been fine if they had gone to a school full of people in their same league. The ivies make it hard to flunk out-the saying at Yale was only the truly brilliant failed (I will name a few-NR Editor Richard Vigilante, Federalist founder Lee Liberman [she actually graduated summa because that was based on number of a's-she skipped three exams at got 3 F's and offered 36 A's for graduation)

    but I saw lots of AA's struggle
    Yeah, I've read about the ridiculous Ivy League grade inflation. I went to a school that had no issue with flunking a person out. They gave the old "look to your left and your right; one of those people won't graduate from here" speech at matriculation, and they sure as hell meant it.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    As long as they get the Federal funds, they don't give a **** one way or the other.
    Not to mention that they can say that they admitted X percent of blacks last year and that sort of thing.

    I always thought that they should refund a student's money that flunks out after the first year. Schools know by now what sort of indicators will tell them which student will graduate and which won't. If you flunk out in the first year, you weren't meant to be there at all.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Yeah, I've read about the ridiculous Ivy League grade inflation. I went to a school that had no issue with flunking a person out. They gave the old "look to your left and your right; one of those people won't graduate from here" speech at matriculation, and they sure as hell meant it.
    some of the colleges at cornell are like that. Yale is very paternalistic. When you are turning down 8-9 kids for every one that gets in you don't want to admit you screwed up by having a bunch flunk out



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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Not to mention that they can say that they admitted X percent of blacks last year and that sort of thing.

    I always thought that they should refund a student's money that flunks out after the first year. Schools know by now what sort of indicators will tell them which student will graduate and which won't. If you flunk out in the first year, you weren't meant to be there at all.
    lots of kids bought tuition insurance

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