View Poll Results: Is affirmative action necessary in today's society?

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  • Yes, it bridges the disparity between minority and non-minority students and workers

    6 7.59%
  • Yes, it is important for the social welfare and diversity of the country

    6 7.59%
  • No, it encourages individuals to identify themselves as "disadvantaged"

    35 44.30%
  • No, it provides a basis for "reverse-discrimination"

    50 63.29%
  • No, it is devalues the accomplishments of both those who it benefits and those it does not

    45 56.96%
  • It is necessary for gender, but not race

    2 2.53%
  • It is necessary for race, but not gender

    1 1.27%
  • Other, please specify

    11 13.92%
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    The same could be said of some of the Amish folks. I do not see people crying and bitching about them.
    No, not at all.

    You obviously know nothing about the Amish, I mean nothing.

    They take care of their own. They are tight nit family's who work very hard for each other. They also know who the father is.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    So what punishment would you suggest for yourself?
    I get my punishment daily by having to live and work around racist ass wipes. I am not sexist nor am I racist. I just one of a few white women that will speak up and tell it like it is. I am sick of white people who are a disgrace to MY race due to their bigotry and fight fire with fire. Til they are ready for some water? I am not giving it. OK?
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    So you do not think environment can hold someone down? Esp. if you have been put there by no choice of your own? It is hard to do well in school when you are starving and having to deal with people wishing to gangbang your ass or trying to get you to join gang.

    You can have all the desire and motivation in the world but it is not gonna help if you are a a non-white person who is being judged and turned down due to skin color.
    I suspect affirmative action is causing backlashes. I am of the age that people who went to law school with me are now the managing partners at major league firms. Many of them were the victims of affirmative action and have no use for it

    affirmative action if properly used was to give someone a break who would have achieved as much or more as those in favored positions but for the adversity they had

    example, a coach choosing a kid ranked 15th in the state for a tennis scholarship over the #2 when the #15 practiced on his own at a public park and didn't have a private coach while the #2 kid had his own indoor court and a coach. The college coach could rationally argue that the 15th ranked kid had more talent and if he had all the advantages the other boy had, the 15th ranked kid might well be better


    however, giving middle class black kids entry into harvard law with B averages and 90 percentile board scores over middle class white kids with A averages at 98 percentile board scores is a joke and that is what has happened with AA in most cases.



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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No, not at all.

    You obviously know nothing about the Amish, I mean nothing.

    They take care of their own. They are tight nit family's who work very hard for each other. They also know who the father is.
    I said some Amish and guess you are the one who knows nothing. Go out to Utah and it is a fact a lot of them are on welfare. Now they may know who their millions of childrens baby daddy are? But sometime it may be Creep Old Uncle Ted.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    You can have all the desire and motivation in the world but it is not gonna help if you are a a non-white person who is being judged and turned down due to skin color.
    Give up on the "victimized" rant. Color is no reason to fail in this country.

    If that were the case I would not have been able to retire at 45. Yes at 45.

    No white man stopped me. Yet I have been the victim of racism.

    Black men and women have no excuse, none. If they took all the energy the put into claiming the "white man is holding me down" into doing something for themselves, well who knows what we as a people could have accomplished.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 04-16-10 at 12:09 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I said some Amish and guess you are the one who knows nothing. Go out to Utah and it is a fact a lot of them are on welfare. Now they may know who their millions of childrens baby daddy are? But sometime it may be Creep Old Uncle Ted.
    Now you are just stereo typing. You are doing exactly the same thing that you claim white people are doing.

    Hypocrite much?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    So you do not think environment can hold someone down? Esp. if you have been put there by no choice of your own? It is hard to do well in school when you are starving and having to deal with people wishing to gangbang your ass or trying to get you to join gang.

    You can have all the desire and motivation in the world but it is not gonna help if you are a a non-white person who is being judged and turned down due to skin color.
    Who ever gets to choose their environment? And I'm sure you've seen the correlation with income and obesity; starving is not the problem they're facing.

    Again, when you send in college applications, you don't include a picture. How would they know you're black unless you tell them?
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    I am just honest and keeping it real. Sad how a fair skinned white woman can know more about the struggle of your peoples than you!
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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I am just honest and keeping it real. Sad how a fair skinned white woman can know more about the struggle of your peoples than you!
    Keeping it real huh? Chris Rock said something about that...

    "Keeping it real... real stupid." - Chris Rock

    You don't know anything about my struggles or my people.

    It is not helping blacks, or our cause. You can continue to support "niggaz" all you want. I will support the fine black people.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 04-16-10 at 12:20 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Who ever gets to choose their environment? And I'm sure you've seen the correlation with income and obesity; starving is not the problem they're facing.

    Again, when you send in college applications, you don't include a picture. How would they know you're black unless you tell them?
    There is a well known harvard law professor who applied to two law schools-the two top rated schools

    he put black on one and the other he left blank by accident. He got into the former and turned down by the latter--however, they later admitted him when they found out he was black. He stayed with Harvard though and didn't attend Yale

    pretty damning -but for race he was not qualified

    He's a big advocate of affirmative racism btw



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