View Poll Results: Should piercing the ears of kittens and selling them as 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

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  • Yes, it's animal cruelty and exploitive of innocent kittens

    25 46.30%
  • It seems less cruel than docking tails and ears

    6 11.11%
  • No, unless silliness is a crime

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Thread: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Umm...no, it shouldn't be a crime. Not as long as chopping off part of infant's penis is legal. Or piercing a toddler's ears. Or docking a dog's tail. Or ears. Or branding. Or neutering. Or declawing.
    I agree. What about cruel factory farming practices? I'd be in favor of laws protecting those animals from poor treatment.

    This case is absurd.

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Oh god no, no no no no no no no

    PLLLLLLEASE don't let this turn into yet another circumcision discussion.

    PLLLLLLLLEASE I beg you.

    As to whether this should be a "Crime"?

    Eh, I can see the point that you shouldn't be poking holes in animals that can't consent just to make them look better or like a gimmick to sell them. Then again, if we allow people to shorten tails for aesthetics or neutar an animal simply for the convienence of it I don't see how this is too far different.

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I agree. What about cruel factory farming practices? I'd be in favor of laws protecting those animals from poor treatment.
    Me, too. Let's make it illegal to inflict cruel, disfiguring treatment on dogs, cats, and other animals.

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    I guess I'm just looking at it through the eyes of utility. I have no problem with de-clawing because it serves a valuable purpose. Spaying and neutering also do as well. With my utilitarian eyes and brain, I just examine each instance and why it's performed. There's no worthwhile reason to crop an ear or tail, to pierce an ear, or do anything of the sort. And I'm sorry, but "because they're cute" is not worthwhile.

    I'm just as much against piercing a baby's ears. I see nothing wrong with waiting until they can give their own input about the matter.

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Me, too. Let's make it illegal to inflict cruel, disfiguring treatment on dogs, cats, and other animals.
    I would be in favor of consistent animal cruelty laws that didn't favor cute puppies and kittens, and were reasonable.

    This particular case irks me because what she did to these kittens doesn't approach the cruelty practiced regularly to swine, cows, steer, chickens, and other farm animals. Also, puppy mills and fur breeders.

    I'd like to see animal cruelty laws that are realistic and fair to all higher life forms.

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    I personally don't see anything particularly cruel about piercing ears, although these earrings look cumbersome for such small, thin ears.

    Ears are not particularly enervated or vascular parts of the body.

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Why are your polls always so weird?
    My polls are meant to be fun, creative, and sometimes bring up an interesting subject for consideration and discussion. In this case the actual subject matter would be 'what is or is not animal cruelty?'

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    I agree that the earrings look a bit heavy for the cat's ears. I don't think I'd consider that "cruelty" though. I would never DO that to a cat, and if I saw someone else do it, I'd mention that they looked too heavy for the ears. But the piercing itself? A non-issue as far as I'm concerned.

    I'm FAR more bothered by the completely legal and unrestricted practice of docking tails and ears.

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I agree that the earrings look a bit heavy for the cat's ears. I don't think I'd consider that "cruelty" though. I would never DO that to a cat, and if I saw someone else do it, I'd mention that they looked too heavy for the ears. But the piercing itself? A non-issue as far as I'm concerned.

    I'm FAR more bothered by the completely legal and unrestricted practice of docking tails and ears.
    I believe that tail docking and ear cropping are illegal in the UK. They have a much more comprehensive and humane system overall in regards to animal cruelty laws.

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    I really don't see how it's any different than the other things we do to pets/livestock, like docking tails, spaying/neutering, ear tagging, ear notching, etc.
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