View Poll Results: Should piercing the ears of kittens and selling them as 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

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  • Yes, it's animal cruelty and exploitive of innocent kittens

    25 46.30%
  • It seems less cruel than docking tails and ears

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Actually I can agree with that. I did not think about the level of the law. I just assumed state or federal.

    I still think it was not abuse, and house arrest was over the top.
    What's the difference? They're all just levels of communities.
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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    What's the difference? They're all just levels of communities.
    On a Federal and state level ALL laws need to be enforced equally under the law. Without this, our system fails.

    Locally or lets say a village, does not have too as long as it does not trump or disregard state or Federal law. Reason being if you don't like the law, you can move to someplace you like better. You should not be run out of your state ot country by it though. Part of the reason I moved form Illinois to Florida.

    If a farm or dog breeder can crop tails etc. Why can't this woman? You don't need a license and their is no over site as far as I know. On a federal or state level this means certain people are above the law. This is not acceptable.

    In fact it stinks to high heaven just like "hate" laws. It creates a privileged class in what is supposed to be a representative republic.
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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Actually I can agree with that. I did not think about the level of the law. I just assumed state or federal.

    I still think it was not abuse, and house arrest was over the top.
    There are theories that during the dark ages that the lack of cats, as a result of being killed by Church superstitions, was the cause of the bubonic plaque in Europe.

    The reason: Cats kill rats.

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    On a Federal and state level ALL laws need to be enforced equally under the law. Without this, our system fails.

    Locally or lets say a village, does not have too as long as it does not trump or disregard state or Federal law.

    If a farm or dog breeder can crop tails etc. Why can't this woman? You don't need a license and their is no over site as far as I know. On a federal or state level this means certain people are above the law. This is not acceptable.

    In fact it stinks to high heaven just like "hate" laws. It creates a privileged class in what is supposed to be a representative republic.
    You can't test on humans. A drug company that has jumped through the proper loop holes can. That's on the federal level.

    You can't torture an animal. A drug company that has jumped through the proper loop holes can (in a manner of speaking). That's on the federal level.
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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    What's the difference? They're all just levels of communities.
    There is quite the large difference between a community bylaw and a Federal mandate. If you don't like the community bylaw, you can just move to another community; if you don't like a Federal mandate, well, you have to leave the United States. Quite the difference...

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    You can't test on humans. A drug company that has jumped through the proper loop holes can. That's on the federal level.

    You can't torture an animal. A drug company that has jumped through the proper loop holes can (in a manner of speaking). That's on the federal level.
    You keep talking about drug company's and completely ignoring...

    The fir industry, Beauty Aids, cropping of ears and tails. Inbreeding of animals. The amount of allowed abuse at dog and horse tracks is sickening.

    It is there and it is excepted. I see no one being arrested for any of that and thousands of other types of accepted animal cruelty going on.

    It is pretty clear.
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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    There are theories that during the dark ages that the lack of cats, as a result of being killed by Church superstitions, was the cause of the bubonic plaque in Europe.

    The reason: Cats kill rats.
    Who is talking about killing cats? What does this have to do with now? We use exterminators.
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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Who is talking about killing cats? What does this have to do with now? We use exterminators.
    Killing cats is related to animal cruelty, is what.

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    A woman got 6 months house arrest for piercing the ears of kittens and selling them as Gothic Kittens. Do you think this should be a crime?

    "Gothic Kittens" Cruelty Case: 6 Months House Arrest for Piercing Cats' Ears - Crimesider - CBS News

    Ever notice that the majority of animals on the endangered species list are mammals?

    A local pet store sells 'painted fish'...which I'm told are fish injected with various fluorescent dies.

    If these were 'Gothic Alligators' no one would give a ****, but oh noes you better not deface the poster children of lolcats!!

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    Re: Should selling 'Gothic Kittens' be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Ever notice that the majority of animals on the endangered species list are mammals?

    A local pet store sells 'painted fish'...which I'm told are fish injected with various fluorescent dies.

    If these were 'Gothic Alligators' no one would give a ****, but oh noes you better not deface the poster children of lolcats!!
    An alligator wouldn't feel the piercing because it's hide is too thick.
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