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Thread: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

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    Re: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
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    BBC News - US boy Jordan Romero, 13, in Mount Everest bid

    Messed up. Do you think social services should reserve the right to step in and bring this to a halt?
    if he's with his parents, i have no problem with this.

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    Re: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

    In my state a child can get a license at age 14 . . . and claim emancipation, as well. . . or tried as an adult

    I don't see why going on a dangerous mountain climb should be 'bad' when these other things are 'ok'
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    Re: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    if he's with his parents, i have no problem with this.
    Lets say his parents wanted to take him on a backpacking trip through Waziristan while wearing an American flag the entire time. Would you have a problem with that?
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    Re: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

    My son is a skateboarder. Yes, we are frequent fliers at the orthopedic surgeon's office, as you can imagine.

    My mom gave me a hard time about letting my son skateboard, because it's a dangerous sport. I countered with the fact that I was rodeoing at age 11, on top of 2,000 pound horse, running balls to the wall to beat a timer. She never seemed to worry that I could have been hurt/killed, because I loved what I was doing. In fact, I remember being thrown by my horse, several times, and having my mother yell at me to get back on the horse, and show him who is boss. And I did...every single time.

    Risk is a part of everything we do. It's a risk every time I get my kids in the car and take them anywhere. If we never risk, we'll never do anything.

    IF the parents are with him, and he takes the necessary safety precautions, why the hell not?

    I think there are some people out there who want to turn us into a society where we wrap our children in bubble wrap before sending them out to play.

    The longterm impact of us removing all risk from our children doesn't seem to me to be a good one.

    Do we really want to raise an entire society of weenies and pussies? because that's where we're headed...

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    Re: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Mount Everest news - Mount Everest by climbers

    So if the parents don't get to decide what risks he can take, and if he can't decide what risks he gets to take, who does decide? Some social worker who's never met him?
    I am saying that somewhere there is a line that has to be drawn here. Whether its Everest or not, I dont know. However, at some point a parent could use such flawed judgement in risking their child's life, that a social worker that had never met them would would have better judgement.
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    Re: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I am saying that somewhere there is a line that has to be drawn here. Whether its Everest or not, I dont know. However, at some point a parent could use such flawed judgement in risking their child's life, that a social worker that had never met them would would have better judgement.
    Yes, we all need social workers to protect our children from dangerous sports and hobbies. No more swing sets. No more skateboarding. No more football. No more soccer or jungle gyms or gymnastics or snow skiing or horseback riding or swimming.

    Those things are dangerous, and someone might get hurt.



    They took the swingsets away from my kids' school. A kid broke his arm a few years ago, and the parents sued the school. A couple of years ago, an adult attempted to abduct a child from a local elementary school. Now they all have bars to keep the kids in and adult predators out.

    We've become ridiculous, as a society.

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    Re: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I am saying that somewhere there is a line that has to be drawn here. Whether its Everest or not, I dont know. However, at some point a parent could use such flawed judgement in risking their child's life, that a social worker that had never met them would would have better judgement.
    And here is where I get to the unpopular part of my stance...The question essentially is, who is a better arbiter of what is in the well being of a child. Either the parents or the government. As soon as we let the government start reviewing these decisions, it's the government who is making the decisions. I do not think that is healthy for us as a society. Sometimes letting parents have the right to make decisions means tragic things happen. I hate it, but it is still overall better for society than having the government make the decisions.
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    Re: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Yes, we all need social workers to protect our children from dangerous sports and hobbies. No more swing sets. No more skateboarding. No more football. No more soccer or jungle gyms or gymnastics or snow skiing or horseback riding or swimming.

    Those things are dangerous, and someone might get hurt.



    They took the swingsets away from my kids' school. A kid broke his arm a few years ago, and the parents sued the school. A couple of years ago, an adult attempted to abduct a child from a local elementary school. Now they all have bars to keep the kids in and adult predators out.

    We've become ridiculous, as a society.
    You are comparing skateboarding and swingsets to climbing one of the most dangerous mountains on earth. If somewhere between 1 in 10 and 1 in 20 kids that ever got on a swing set died, would you think the government was being a nanny state by saying that hey, maybe we ought to keep kids off the swing sets?
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    Re: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You are comparing skateboarding and swingsets to climbing one of the most dangerous mountains on earth. If somewhere between 1 in 10 and 1 in 20 kids that ever got on a swing set died, would you think the government was being a nanny state by saying that hey, maybe we ought to keep kids off the swing sets?
    50% of the kids in my family were seriously injured by a swingset.

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    Re: Screwed up: Should 13 year old be allowed to go and attempt to climb MT Everest?

    I think any parents who let their child do this are reckless and irresponsible. However, unless there is a specific legal requirement that forbids this, it should be up to the parents and not the government.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Yes, we all need social workers to protect our children from dangerous sports and hobbies. No more swing sets. No more skateboarding. No more football. No more soccer or jungle gyms or gymnastics or snow skiing or horseback riding or swimming.

    Those things are dangerous, and someone might get hurt.



    They took the swingsets away from my kids' school. A kid broke his arm a few years ago, and the parents sued the school. A couple of years ago, an adult attempted to abduct a child from a local elementary school. Now they all have bars to keep the kids in and adult predators out.

    We've become ridiculous, as a society.
    People don't die doing those things (barring extremely rare, almost unheard of accidents). People die climbing Everest. A lot. You can't really compare it to a schoolyard sport.

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