They were equal access, just separate (in theory). Look at Brown v. Board of Education. They didn't strike it down because it was unconstitutional, they struck it down because the equal part never came to fruition. The argument in favor was that "separate educational facilities are inherently unequal." If you could pull off separate but equal then you have no problem according to the constitution, but it was never done.
And this was done, because "Separate but equal" was impossible. The government was placing people in inherently unequal conditions solely due to their race.
Yes, but if it was possible, then it wouldn't be unconstitutional. Equal is impossible because you're making it separate for a reason. It was struck down not because the law said so, but just because human action made it impossible.
If the law makes discrimination inevitable, how is that not discriminatory?
Because if it was possible then it would have been fine. However, they discovered that it was impossible, and that's why it was eventually overturned.
African Americans were already relegated to poorer conditions with public services. They had been for decades since the passage of the 14th Amendment.
They were slaves, they weren't citizens. The Constitution doesn't apply to non-citizens, so it's not the same situation.
I said after the passage of the 14th Amendment and before Fergussen, between 1865 and 1896.
I guess by then they still thought it could be possible.
I can't believe the high percentage of stupid people who said, "no."
OF COURSE THEY CAN!
You have studied at least a little American history, haven't you?
Not only can libertarian principles work, BUT THEY ALREADY HAVE.
WHEN? America's founding fathers did it. America was founded upon INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY -- LIBERTARIAN PRINCIPLES -- and as a result, became THE GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD.
The greatest nation in the world -- with slavery, child labor, no regulation of unsafe foods, no public schools, no health care for the poor, and no rights for women.
Mind you, the competition back then wasn't much better. It's a lot easier to be the Greatest Nation in the World when everyone else is bad, too. :mrgreen:
I can't believe the high percentage of stupid people who said, "no."
OF COURSE THEY CAN!
You have studied at least a little American history, haven't you?
Not only can libertarian principles work, BUT THEY ALREADY HAVE.
WHEN? America's founding fathers did it. America was founded upon INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY -- LIBERTARIAN PRINCIPLES -- and as a result, became THE GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD.
And furthermore, we must NOT abandon them, lest we collapse like the Soviet Union.
Libertarian principles do NOT endorse slavery or child labor, and they do NOT deny rights for women. The other items in the list are better provided by a free market in the private sector.
Read the Libertarian Party platform before you make accusations like these.
The greatest nation in the world -- with slavery,
child labor,
no regulation of unsafe foods,
no public schools,
no health care for the poor,
and no rights for women.
There have been no e coli outbreaks since the lessening of regulations on the meat industry;
The economy has been doing great since so many regulations were removed from Wall Street;
There have been no oil spills since the oil companies have been allowed to drill without oversight;
There have been no mine disasters since regulations have been lessened...
Why, the free market solves everything!
To paraphrase a quote:
Anarchy by any other name, still stinks.
So I see that mainstream American Libertarians are for getting rid of government now? Why wasn't I told?
The greatest nation in the world -- with slavery, child labor, no regulation of unsafe foods, no public schools, no health care for the poor, and no rights for women.
Mind you, the competition back then wasn't much better. It's a lot easier to be the Greatest Nation in the World when everyone else is bad, too. :mrgreen:
If they had continued to adhere to libertarian ideals it is far more likely that slavery would have died a natural death and our race relations would be GREATLY improved. Mr Johnsons peculiar institution had already been deemed illegal in several northern states before we even became a country. The importation of slaves had been stopped shortly after we became a country. The transition would have been MUCH more healthy. But because the federal government FORCED an end to slavery (via a 'civil' war) we STILl have people resisting and rebelliing some 150 years later.
Oh yes...'your' way worked SO much better. Blacks are doing SO WELL in this country.
This is why I can't take libertarians seriously. They live in some sort of Bizarro World where if the government were not involved then things would be perfect and we'd all be holding hands and singing about peace love and understanding.
This is why I can't take libertarians seriously. They live in some sort of Bizarro World where if the government were not involved then things would be perfect and we'd all be holding hands and singing about peace love and understanding.