View Poll Results: Should/Can libertarianism work?

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  • Yes of course but first we need to become more known.

    28 31.82%
  • Yes but we will never get elected.

    10 11.36%
  • No and I'm damn glad of it.

    42 47.73%
  • No because we will never get well known/enough votes.

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Thread: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Far-left, by American standards would be places like San Fransisco/ the Pacific NW. The NE/portions of great lakes go blue quite a bit but they are typically labor democrats. I wouldn't call them "far-left" by our standards.
    So they are far left by american standards, but arent far left. lol
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    So they are far left by american standards, but arent far left. lol
    What are left-right by global standards? Cultures and countries are too unique to have a global spectrum. In America we have left-right standards based off of American definitions of what makes the left and what makes the right. What is wrong with that?

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Thanks digsbe. Any of you Libertarian types can add/amplify/correct that? Do we have any Libertarian Republicans here?
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    What are left-right by global standards? Cultures and countries are too unique to have a global spectrum. In America we have left-right standards based off of American definitions of what makes the left and what makes the right. What is wrong with that?
    You are attempting to identify an established political universal in a particular case. Far-Left is a relative term, and i wouldnt classify anywhere in America falling under the category of "FAR"-left at all
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    So they are far left by american standards, but arent far left. lol
    For the purposes of this discussion, or any other involving US politics, they are.
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    For the purposes of this discussion, or any other involving US politics, they are.
    they absolutely are not.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_left]Far left - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    How does this exist in america? Anyone?
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Thanks digsbe. Any of you Libertarian types can add/amplify/correct that? Do we have any Libertarian Republicans here?
    No problem, and I 2nd what you said. If any libertarians have a problem with what I described please correct me. I'm not libertarian myself so I can't really speak for all of them and say is definitely what a libertarian Republican would look/vote like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    they absolutely are not.

    Far left - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    How does this exist in america? Anyone?
    Does it have to exist in America? To be opposite, can we say the far right doesn't exist in America either? With American politics we use American left-right spectrum. With UK politics you use a UK left-right spectrum. You can't fit spectrums to a global scale because global politics are just far too broad to do so. However, I do think you can say someone is liberal/conservative, but with this what is "liberal" and what is "conservative" is relative to each countries political system and cultural beliefs.
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    No, because they don't take human nature into account.
    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    No, libertarianism, much like communism, only really works on paper, because it doesn't account for human nature.
    How so? Can either of you explain to me what you mean by this?

    To answer the OP - I consider myself a libertarian only because it would be the closest match to what I believe in politically. Of course, I am not on board with their lack of foreign policy.

    I do have the strong belief in shrinking the federal governments role in our daily lives and giving more decision making capability to the states.. but would it work in this day and age? I have no idea. I DO know, that a lot of what is being practiced now isn't what I would call a well oiled machine. More like a bloated albatross.

    I especially like the individualistic ideals outlined by the lp - gay marriage? Go ahead.. it's YOUR business, not mine. You want to do drugs? Go ahead... it doesn't affect me... etc....

    I am very fiscally conservative and very socially liberal. Unfortunately, I don't see people adopting the actual LP as a serious party - until of course, people get tired of the same lying bull**** presented by the Reps and Dems. /shrug
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Thats pretty far right :P

    Friedman is basically an anarcho-capitalist
    Far-right!? The Founding Fathers and Adam Smith are "far-right"?

    And Friedman is hardly an anarcho-capitalist, as he fully supports the existence of a central bank which implements monetary policy via a FIAT currency. Hardly an anarcho-capitalist...

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    they absolutely are not.

    Far left - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    How does this exist in america? Anyone?
    What does that have to do with a discussion of American politics?

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