View Poll Results: Should/Can libertarianism work?

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  • Yes of course but first we need to become more known.

    28 31.82%
  • Yes but we will never get elected.

    10 11.36%
  • No and I'm damn glad of it.

    42 47.73%
  • No because we will never get well known/enough votes.

    8 9.09%
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    No, it will never. Both parties are interventionist war-mongers, and that has been the case since the Spanish-American War.

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    They were equal access, just separate (in theory). Look at Brown v. Board of Education. They didn't strike it down because it was unconstitutional, they struck it down because the equal part never came to fruition. The argument in favor was that "separate educational facilities are inherently unequal." If you could pull off separate but equal then you have no problem according to the constitution, but it was never done.
    And this was done, because "Separate but equal" was impossible. The government was placing people in inherently unequal conditions solely due to their race.
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    And this was done, because "Separate but equal" was impossible. The government was placing people in inherently unequal conditions solely due to their race.
    Yes, but if it was possible, then it wouldn't be unconstitutional. Equal is impossible because you're making it separate for a reason. It was struck down not because the law said so, but just because human action made it impossible.

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Yes, but if it was possible, then it wouldn't be unconstitutional. Equal is impossible because you're making it separate for a reason. It was struck down not because the law said so, but just because human action made it impossible.
    If the law makes discrimination inevitable, how is that not discriminatory?
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    If the law makes discrimination inevitable, how is that not discriminatory?
    Because if it was possible then it would have been fine. However, they discovered that it was impossible, and that's why it was eventually overturned.

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Because if it was possible then it would have been fine. However, they discovered that it was impossible, and that's why it was eventually overturned.
    African Americans were already relegated to poorer conditions with public services. They had been for decades since the passage of the 14th Amendment.
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    African Americans were already relegated to poorer conditions with public services. They had been for decades since the passage of the 14th Amendment.
    They were slaves, they weren't citizens. The Constitution doesn't apply to non-citizens, so it's not the same situation.

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    They were slaves, they weren't citizens. The Constitution doesn't apply to non-citizens, so it's not the same situation.
    I said after the passage of the 14th Amendment and before Fergussen, between 1865 and 1896.
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    I said after the passage of the 14th Amendment and before Fergussen, between 1865 and 1896.
    I guess by then they still thought it could be possible.

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I guess by then they still thought it could be possible.
    Then they were smokin some fine weed
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