View Poll Results: Should/Can libertarianism work?

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Thread: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Libertarian economic policy is freedom to achieve, that is a far cry away from crony capitalism/corporatism.

    I think you need to learn more about libertarians.

    You don't understand that economic policy is tied to every single thing on the planet.
    You can't be free with a restricted economy.
    Or, as Isaac Asimov accurately described libertarianism. "I have the freedom to get rich and you have the freedom to starve."

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    This is a multi-faceted question.

    First, there is not simply one type of libertarian. You've got your extreme ones that are closer to anarchists, your more moderate ones that realize there is a place for government and account for the reality of modern days, you have your hawkish ones, etc. However, since it says Libertarian Party we'll go for a more generic middle road libertarian.

    In that case I would say it depends greatly on the time span that said policies would need to be enacted and whether said Libertarian actually has the forethought of dealing with reality rather than ideals, something many simply do not. I think a gradual removal of old policies that run counter to the libertarian philosophy as libertarian policies are pushed COULD potentially work. However, if they instead went for a quick say...4 year roll out of their policy (and thus roll back of old policy) I think it could potentially cripple the country.

    This is of course for a broadscale libertarian policy focus. Individual libertarian policies can have a chance for working here and there far better than the idea of the entire platform at once.

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusticus View Post
    Or, as Isaac Asimov accurately described libertarianism. "I have the freedom to get rich and you have the freedom to starve."
    Just another quote made in ignorance, by an ignorant person.
    It perpetuates itself.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Or, as Isaac Asimov accurately described libertarianism. "I have the freedom to get rich and you have the freedom to starve."
    You do have the freedom to starve. You also have the freedom not to starve. It's your choice...or is choice a bad thing now?

    Sorry if a meritocratic system leaves behind a few lazy douchebags. Subjective touchy-feelyism is a dog that won't hunt.

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You do have the freedom to starve. You also have the freedom not to starve. It's your choice...or is choice a bad thing now?

    Sorry if a meritocratic system leaves behind a few lazy douchebags. Subjective touchy-feelyism is a dog that won't hunt.
    the opposition to aiding the lazy douchebags i understand
    but ignoring the plight of the children of the lazy douchebags i do not
    or a willingness to disregard any other element of our society which needs help thru no fault of their own
    that indifference, that willingness to dismiss those unfortunates in very real circumstances may be what prevents the libertarian alternative from gaining traction as a political force
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusticus View Post
    Or, as Isaac Asimov accurately described libertarianism. "I have the freedom to get rich and you have the freedom to starve."
    Sounds good to me! I love freedom!

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba
    the opposition to aiding the lazy douchebags i understand
    but ignoring the plight of the children of the lazy douchebags i do not
    or a willingness to disregard any other element of our society which needs help thru no fault of their own
    that indifference, that willingness to dismiss those unfortunates in very real circumstances may be what prevents the libertarian alternative from gaining traction as a political force
    So you're going to overhaul an entire economic and governing system because I show you a couple pictures of homeless kids whose ribs stick out? Sorry, but nobody said life is fair. I'm not about to condone a communist society just so we can shoulder the pain of a few kids who got dealt a crappy hand in life.

    Bringing up something like that is just cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you bend over backwards trying to help every soul you can, all the ones that are normally taken care of are going to fall by the wasteside, and your heart will have to bleed over there for a while. Sorry if I don't have enough fingers to plug all the holes in a dam.

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the opposition to aiding the lazy douchebags i understand
    but ignoring the plight of the children of the lazy douchebags i do not
    or a willingness to disregard any other element of our society which needs help thru no fault of their own
    that indifference, that willingness to dismiss those unfortunates in very real circumstances may be what prevents the libertarian alternative from gaining traction as a political force
    How much of your own time and money have you dedicated to ameliorating their plight? Shouldn't you be out there right now? Why are you wasting time on an internet forum when you could be helping children?

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    So you're going to overhaul an entire economic and governing system because I show you a couple pictures of homeless kids whose ribs stick out? Sorry, but nobody said life is fair. I'm not about to condone a communist society just so we can shoulder the pain of a few kids who got dealt a crappy hand in life.

    Bringing up something like that is just cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you bend over backwards trying to help every soul you can, all the ones that are normally taken care of are going to fall by the wasteside, and your heart will have to bleed over there for a while. Sorry if I don't have enough fingers to plug all the holes in a dam.
    excellent post, revealing why the libertarians - at least the capital L Libertarians - can't make in-roads within the nation's political system. its Libertarian dogma trumps reality
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Can the Libertarian party or policies ever work?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba
    excellent post, revealing why the libertarians - at least the capital L Libertarians - can't make in-roads within the nation's political system. its Libertarian dogma trumps reality
    So you condone a reality where no child goes hungry and everyone lives happily and peacefully ever after.

    Whatever you got, pass it over here. I don't want to feel any pain either.

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