View Poll Results: Is the republican party motivated by racism?

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    Re: Racism amoung the republican party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not at all. People work there way out of the projects every day. People also sell drugs and rob people and are unwilling to try and get them selfs out.

    It has nothing to do with having fun or not. It's about having the courage to work hard LEGALLY to get yourself out. Contribute to society rather than leach on it.
    There also seems to be this assumption, by some posters, that only blacks live in "the projects". Not so, or at least not around here. You'll find whites and hispanics and asians there too.

    People live in the projects mainly because they can't afford to live anywhere better. Mostly, they can't afford to live anywhere better because they've made bad choices in life that have limited their ability to earn.

    30 or 40 years ago, maybe even 20, there was some basis for blaming racism for the poverty of minorities. That has changed. I've known far too many black professionals, programmers, engineers, supervisors, managers or business owners to believe it is still a major factor. When I pass through the state college campus, I see as many minority students as I do white students.

    Hey, a new day has finally dawned, when race is no longer a big deal. Why can't we recognize that and be happy about it? Heck, I am. It was about time and I'm glad I lived to see it.

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    Re: Racism amoung the republican party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not at all. People work there way out of the projects every day. People also sell drugs and rob people and are unwilling to try and get them selfs out.

    It has nothing to do with having fun or not. It's about having the courage to work hard LEGALLY to get yourself out. Contribute to society rather than leach on it.
    You cannot get a job if someone will not hire you due to the color of your skin.
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    Re: Racism amoung the republican party?

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    The GOP is a party of the elite rich, which in terms of population is a tiny, tiny minority. The only basis they have to appeal to working class people is racism. And last I checked the Republicans are a pretty popular party. So yes, racism is pretty significant for them.
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    Re: Racism amoung the republican party?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lets see: you have 5 kids with 4 different guys by the age of 19 and you are in the projects. Did you c hoose to live in the projects? Yes you did. No one who dies of smoking related cancer (as my father did) chose to get cancer but they chose to do the stuff that increased the odds of that happening.
    Sterotyping. Why assume someone living up in them have 4 baby daddies? I have friends that live in projects and not all of em have a bunch of babies and a lot of them want work but cannot find it and this is with HELP from the ESC
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    Re: Racism amoung the republican party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    There also seems to be this assumption, by some posters, that only blacks live in "the projects". Not so, or at least not around here. You'll find whites and hispanics and asians there too.

    People live in the projects mainly because they can't afford to live anywhere better. Mostly, they can't afford to live anywhere better because they've made bad choices in life that have limited their ability to earn.

    30 or 40 years ago, maybe even 20, there was some basis for blaming racism for the poverty of minorities. That has changed. I've known far too many black professionals, programmers, engineers, supervisors, managers or business owners to believe it is still a major factor. When I pass through the state college campus, I see as many minority students as I do white students.

    Hey, a new day has finally dawned, when race is no longer a big deal. Why can't we recognize that and be happy about it? Heck, I am. It was about time and I'm glad I lived to see it.
    I call this prime example of White Denial. I never said only black people are living up in the projects and the majority of peeps on welfare are white. No big shocker there.
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    Re: Racism amoung the republican party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I call this prime example of White Denial. I never said only black people are living up in the projects and the majority of peeps on welfare are white. No big shocker there.
    Kali, dear lady, if you don't believe that race relations have changed dramatically in the past 40 years, for the better, then it is you, my dear, who are in denial.

    All I have to do is walk down the street and I can see it with my own two eyes.

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    Re: Racism amoung the republican party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    You cannot get a job if someone will not hire you due to the color of your skin.
    That's funny. I see plenty of hard working Hispanics, blacks etc working in corporate America with no interference from AA?

    Wonder why that is? Well damn wonder how I and my wife got 6 figure jobs.


    Must have been AA and not all the hard work and sacrifice.
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    Re: Racism amoung the republican party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    You cannot get a job if someone will not hire you due to the color of your skin.
    Yes, you can. SomeONE is just one person. One employer. You can't seriously sit there and even attempt to make the claim that no one will hire a black person. People who would not hire a black person based only on their skin color are few and far between. They are the minority. Do they exist? Sure. But in small percentages. They are irrelevant, and hardly a basis for an excuse not to have a job.

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    Re: Racism amoung the republican party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    You cannot get a job if someone will not hire you due to the color of your skin.
    Incorrect. You cannot get a job if EVERYONE will not give you a job based on color of skin....
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    Re: Racism amoung the republican party?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Incorrect. You cannot get a job if EVERYONE will not give you a job based on color of skin....
    that doesn't happen--I know, I try Title VII cases in Federal Courts. Its against federal law for an employer to discriminate on the basis of color. And its fairly easy to prove a prima facie case under the McDonald-Douglas burden shifting analysis

    1) were you qualified for the job
    2) did you apply
    3) were you denied the job
    4) was someone not of your color or race hired instead of you

    that normally gets you before a jury unless the employer can establish a bona fide non discriminatory reason for its actions that you cannot rebut as pretext for discrimination

    you can do that by proving

    a) the reason given does not have a factual basis
    b) the reason given does have a factual basis but really was not the true reason or
    c) the reason given was not sufficient to deny you the job



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