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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flea View Post
    Appeal to Popularity is one of the most innane and pathetic attempts at undermining a persons argument and completely and utterly fallicious, meaning that it has no merit.
    What argument? Did you provide evidence?

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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Didn't you mean FDR?
    Nope, TR actually expanded the power of presidency by creating the first conservation laws and overseeing boards he appointed, the presidency became more powerful by cabinet appointments, though nowhere near the levels it is now. FDR expanded the role of the federal though via New Deal legislation.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What argument? Did you provide evidence?
    Of course I did, but go ahead and play your juvenile games. Hopefully they amuse you. Does nothing for you status in this debate unfortunately.

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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Actually, straight democracy can be highly immoral and result in the trampling of the rights of the minority. Just because the majority wants something at a particular point in time does not mean that what they want will subscribe to liberty and the protection of human rights.

    Remember, the majority of Germany supported the National Socialists.
    By the way, also noting that Nazi Germany was not a democracy.
    Hitler has achieved power by democratic means, but the regime he was leading was an authoritarian, fascist regime, and not a democracy.
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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    You Americans sure do have funny ways to describe a political regime.

    America is a representative democracy for that matter, and all existing democracies have laws that are made to prevent what is called "the majority's tyranny".
    And a source, in case you will ask for one, that constitutional republics can be democracies:

    Also, a representative democracy may or may not be a constitutional republic. For example, "the United States relies on representative democracy, but [its] system of government is much more complex than that. [It is] not a simple representative democracy, but a constitutional republic in which majority rule is tempered by minority rights protected by law."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_republic
    So it is a form of a representative democracy.
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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    By the way, also noting that Nazi Germany was not a democracy.
    Hitler has achieved power by democratic means, but the regime he was leading was an authoritarian, fascist regime, and not a democracy.
    That is correct......for the record.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    And a source, in case you will ask for one, that constitutional republics can be democracies:

    So it is a form of a representative democracy.
    It's a form of democracy, but not in the sense that some people use the term.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    By the way, also noting that Nazi Germany was not a democracy.
    Hitler has achieved power by democratic means, but the regime he was leading was an authoritarian, fascist regime, and not a democracy.
    THat's why I used the term national socialist...

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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    It's a form of democracy, but not in the sense that some people use the term.
    What some people use is left to some people to worry about.
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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    And a source, in case you will ask for one, that constitutional republics can be democracies:

    So it is a form of a representative democracy.
    It is. You're using a flawed syllogism.

    A constitutional republic can be a democracy.
    A constitutional republic is a form of representative democracy.
    Thus democracy equals a constitutional republic.

    Ummm, no. A constitutional republic is a specific form of democracy that has evolved to counter some of the major flaws present in straight democracy.

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