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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Strawman.
    Meant to say "The most moral form of democracy".
    I'm typing fast as I have a lot of people to answer to, it would seem.
    Constitutional republics put checks on the power of any one branch of government to dominate, and guarantee the protection of rights. Democracy may or may not do that.
    That constitutional republic you're speaking about is a democracy.
    Hence Democracy is the most moral form of regimes.
    You are arguing about why constitutional republic is the most moral sub-form of Democracy (which is a different argument).
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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Meant to say "The most moral form of democracy".
    I'm typing fast as I have a lot of people to answer to, it would seem.
    That constitutional republic you're speaking about is a democracy.
    Hence Democracy is the most moral form of regimes.
    You are arguing about why constitutional republic is the most moral sub-form of Democracy (which is a different argument).
    Wrong again. See my above post. A constitutional republic differs substantially from a democracy, and is more moral than a democracy, as a result, if morality is defined as having the greatest protection for individual liberties.

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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Read the article again.

    Key differences:

    -Representatives must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.

    -executive, legislative, and judicial powers are separated into distinct branches and the will of the majority of the population is tempered by protections for individual rights

    -no individual or group has absolute power.

    In a representative democracy without these constitutional laws, the will of the majority could easily overwhelm the rights and protection of the minority. That's a HUGE difference.
    Quote Originally Posted by Catz' Article
    A constitutional republic is a state where the head of state and other officials are elected as representatives of the people(=Representative Democracy), and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux
    Key differences:

    -Representatives must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.

    -executive, legislative, and judicial powers are separated into distinct branches and the will of the majority of the population is tempered by protections for individual rights

    -no individual or group has absolute power.

    In a representative democracy without these constitutional laws, the will of the majority could easily overwhelm the rights and protection of the minority. That's a HUGE difference.
    A representative democracy can be a Constitutional republic, all it needs is to set those rules that enforce the representatives to follow the constitution.

    The US, for example, is a representative democracy and a constitutional republic.

    Proof:
    Also, a representative democracy may or may not be a constitutional republic. For example, "the United States relies on representative democracy, but [its] system of government is much more complex than that. [It is] not a simple representative democracy, but a constitutional republic in which majority rule is tempered by minority rights protected by law."
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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Wrong again. See my above post. A constitutional republic differs substantially from a democracy, and is more moral than a democracy, as a result, if morality is defined as having the greatest protection for individual liberties.
    Give an example of a constitutional republic that is not a Democracy.
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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Give an example of a constitutional republic that is not a Democracy.
    This is a flawed use of logic. There are democracies that are not constitutional republics. A constitutional republic protects individual freedoms better than a democracy does. Thus, a constitutional republic > a democracy.


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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This is a flawed use of logic. There are democracies that are not constitutional republics.
    Because it is a sub-form of democracy.
    Some states follow other sub-forms of democracy.

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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Are you being willfully obtuse?
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    Re: Do you get upset at the word democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Give an example of a constitutional republic that is not a Democracy.
    The Star Wars galaxy.


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