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    Would you change your stance on abortion if ...

    Would you change your stance on abortion if there was a 100% safe, 100% effective, quickly reversible, widely available, and inexpensive form of birth control that is not abstinence?

    I am following the birth control debates today and this question popped in my mind.

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    Re: Would you change your stance on abortion if ...

    I mean, I don't think many pro-life people would given this scenario. It would most likely affect pro-choice people. And still probably not that much.
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    Re: Would you change your stance on abortion if ...

    I agree with Ikari, but yes I would.
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    Re: Would you change your stance on abortion if ...

    not sure where this birth control debate is but oh well

    I've been thinking that it's interesting how, before abortion was illegal, and there was no form of birth control, but now abortion is legal and there's all kinds of birth control hmmm.

    shouldn't it be the other way around? but we're more advanced now so eh

    meaning, abortion illegal, many forms of birth control, or abortion legal and no form of birth control

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    Re: Would you change your stance on abortion if ...

    I would change from pro-choice to pro-life. Still not sure if I'm completely pro-choice, to be honest.
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    Re: Would you change your stance on abortion if ...

    The fact that some people lump abortion and birth control in the same category makes me sick.
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    Re: Would you change your stance on abortion if ...

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    The fact that some people lump abortion and birth control in the same category makes me sick.
    Well, if they believe life begins at conception, this ideology is at least consistent.
    Many forms of birth control- including hormonal contraception and IUDs; basically, everything except barrier methods- work in part by preventing ovulation and in part by making the endometrium inhospitable to zygotes.
    Sometimes with hormonal contraception, fertilization will occur; when it does, the zygote will fail to implant and will be flushed away with the next menstrual period.

    That's why many anti-abortion-rights proponents have found it convenient to adopt the belief that life begins at implantation, rather than at conception; that way they don't have to go on record as opposing contraception, which would completely alienate the mainstream and cause them to sound like even bigger wingnuts than they already do.
    They also don't have to go on record as opposing fertility clinics, frozen embryo storage, etc.
    In this scenario, zygotes aren't really "pweshuss wittle unborn children" until they've burrowed into somebody's uterine lining, you see.
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    Re: Would you change your stance on abortion if ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora151989 View Post
    not sure where this birth control debate is but oh well
    This thread got me thinking about it.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/aborti...man-being.html

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    Re: Would you change your stance on abortion if ...

    I don't think I would. I do not think that there is a workable way to force a woman to maintain an unwanted pregnancy.

    I think the issue is to give women options so that they don't feel forced into an abortion. But there are still some scenarios in which abortion may be necessary. And, nothing is 100%.

    I had my tubes tied years ago after my son was born. I went through a painful surgery to prevent pregnancy and still can't be 100% sure that I won't get pregnant.

    That is the practical reality of being a woman.

    And no, at 44, with complications after my last child, I would not go through another pregnancy. How dare anyone assume that they are better equipped to choose what is best for me and my children. And by children, I mean the 16 year old and 12 year old that I am still responsible to raise until adulthood.

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    Re: Would you change your stance on abortion if ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora151989 View Post
    not sure where this birth control debate is but oh well

    I've been thinking that it's interesting how, before abortion was illegal, and there was no form of birth control, but now abortion is legal and there's all kinds of birth control hmmm.

    shouldn't it be the other way around? but we're more advanced now so eh

    meaning, abortion illegal, many forms of birth control, or abortion legal and no form of birth control
    Actually, herbalists and midwives have known about naturally occurring abortives since ancient days. They probably used those as a form of birth control since no preventative birth control existed.

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