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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    To answer the question - I have experienced it first hand as many here have.. but I've witnessed it more often than I've experienced it.

    I've encountered sexism much more than racism.
    I think sexism may be more prevalent than racism.

    Not decisions made based upon it, necessarily, but overt displays of it.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    To answer the question - I have experienced it first hand as many here have.. but I've witnessed it more often than I've experienced it.

    I've encountered sexism much more than racism.
    Me too! I am better educated and have a great deal more experience than my white female boss, or HER white female division chief, and HER black female director...and better education and experience but less rank than HER boss...the white female wing commander, and HER boss...the OTHER white female BASE commander...

    I'm tellin ya...theres a glass ceiling out there...

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    It DOES exist. Not downplaying womens experiences...believe me...I saw it in the military a LOT. But in todays PC world it is just as likely to be employed, but in a 'corrective' manner. And its STILL a form of 'ism'.

    And personally...I dont care. I've got a GREAT job and I REALLY like working under 5 women...its GOOD to let them all get on top! ( for the record...every one of them is VERY GOOD at what they do...)

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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I think a statement made earlier is somewhat accurate.

    Everyone has prejudices, racist leanings, etc.


    However you want to describe them.

    But IMO, you are not prejudiced/racist/bigoted/whatever unless you allow those things to factor into your decisions as facts.

    In other words, if you recognize that you may be prejudiced in some way, you can factor that into your decision making process, and thus hopefully in the end eliminate any bias in your final decision...if you make one.
    The bolded part is what I don't agree with. I see no evidence of that whatsoever. Especially personally.

    Don't you think *I* would know?

    If you line up a person of every race in front of me, I'm not going to assume a damn thing about a single one of them. Why would I have to? Why would anyone?

    I don't buy for a second that everyone in the fricken world is racist/prejudiced/whatever. And I fail to see any indication of that in the real world.

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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    To answer the question - I have experienced it first hand as many here have.. but I've witnessed it more often than I've experienced it.

    I've encountered sexism much more than racism.
    Ditto with the sexism.

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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Have You Ever Experienced Racism? If so, please feel free to share about it here.

    I think people would be shocked if they knew the number of peoples who are subjected to racism on a daily basis.
    Several times and onetime that really stands out and it was as a White guy watching Black friends of mine get treated poorly

    in 1993, Notre Dame hosted a major league Table Tennis Tournament called the St Joseph Open. I used to be a top player in Cincinnati. At that time, several of the other top players in town including my regular two (open and under 3500 rating) partners were African-Americans.

    I and several friends drove up from Cincinnati. Me-then a 34 year old White guy, and five other guys. one was a 60 year old black man-a high ranking postal employee who had served in the marines. The second a 38 year old Black guy who not only was a very good player but was well respected throughout the midwest in a couplel sports. The third man-my age, is a well known news Anchor in cincinnati, He's black as well. The fourth, also Black is a EMT and Cincinnati FD heavy rescue Fireman. The last Man,also about my age, is Also Black, he owns his own business. Everyone was dressed as well or better than the other patrons. No backward baseball caps, no pants half down to the knees, etc.

    we arrived in South Bend late. Looking for Dinner, we went to some Jock Sports Bar that seemed populated with ND students etc. Most of them white. We sat for a HALF HOUR before one of the servers even walked past us. I got pssed and finally grabbed one of the servers. After getting an attitude I didn't like including what I was doing sitting with "five of them" I noted I was a civil rights attorney and I'd be more than happy to call up the Local US attorneys office and file a complaint. that seemed to get attention

    As I was leaving I noted that for all these people knew, some of the guys with me were Ex Notre Dame athletes (the fireman had played Triple A baseball and the News Anchor was a former Div III All American in a couple sports)coming back for a Basketball game that had just ended that night.


    No doubt in my mind that was racism. No doubt in my mind that sort of crap happens more than anyone would care to admit. Not only that, my friends were all respected members of the community, all had good jobs, two had served their country and one had-and continues to-save peoples' lives.

    When I talked to them about this the older Gentleman joked that he was glad "we brought our white boy attorney with us". The other guys laughed but noted it wasn't the first time they had been subjected to such treatment. Another noted that he could understand it if we all were dressed like gang-bangers and carry on but we weren't and he as tired about being blamed for such "riff raff"



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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    The bolded part is what I don't agree with. I see no evidence of that whatsoever. Especially personally.

    Don't you think *I* would know?

    If you line up a person of every race in front of me, I'm not going to assume a damn thing about a single one of them. Why would I have to? Why would anyone?

    I don't buy for a second that everyone in the fricken world is racist/prejudiced/whatever. And I fail to see any indication of that in the real world.
    I'm not saying that you or anyone is noticeably (even to yourself) racist/prejudiced/whatever.

    I'm saying that everyone has slight stereotypes/prejudices.

    You may subconsciously counter them, even.
    Or, you may be one of the exceptions, who somehow countered all of their past experiences and is totally unbiased.
    I don’t know if that’s possible.

    What I was saying, however, is that if you allow for the possibility that you MIGHT be biased in your reasoning, you probably won’t make decisions that are biased.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm not saying that you or anyone is noticeably (even to yourself) racist/prejudiced/whatever.

    I'm saying that everyone has slight stereotypes/prejudices.

    You may subconsciously counter them, even.
    Or, you may be one of the exceptions, who somehow countered all of their past experiences and is totally unbiased.
    I don’t know if that’s possible.

    What I was saying, however, is that if you allow for the possibility that you MIGHT be biased in your reasoning, you probably won’t make decisions that are biased.
    That's just it, I don't think I'm an exception at all. Somehow countered all of my past experiences? Why would my experiences make me biased against entire groups of people I don't even know? The only bias I have is against individuals who did me wrong. Why would I apply a negative experience with a brunette to all brunettes? There may be some who do that, but I seriously doubt that everyone does, as is being claimed here.

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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    That's just it, I don't think I'm an exception at all. Somehow countered all of my past experiences? Why would my experiences make me biased against entire groups of people I don't even know? The only bias I have is against individuals who did me wrong. Why would I apply a negative experience with a brunette to all brunettes? There may be some who do that, but I seriously doubt that everyone does, as is being claimed here.
    Some are saying that, judging by their past experiences, the majority of persons who fit into a certain sub-group tend towards certain actions in a given situation.

    Like the one person's (or so they say) multiple negative experiences regarding the capability of female Asian drivers, and is more careful when near them due to such.

    Now, I would view that as a stereotype.

    Some might view it as sexist and racist.

    In my mind, as long as one realizes that they tend to place some people into a stereotype box, they can avoid a blanket application of such.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Some are saying that, judging by their past experiences, the majority of persons who fit into a certain sub-group tend towards certain actions in a given situation.

    Like the one person's (or so they say) multiple negative experiences regarding the capability of female Asian drivers, and is more careful when near them due to such.

    Now, I would view that as a stereotype.

    Some might view it as sexist and racist.

    In my mind, as long as one realizes that they tend to place some people into a stereotype box, they can avoid a blanket application of such.
    I not only agree, I think forming stereotypes is human nature and we can't not do it. When we see a growling dog, we back up slowly, because our past experiences with growling dogs have taught us that it could be dangerous. If we weren't able to place an individual/object into a category based off of some characteristic, we wouldn't have gotten far as a species.

    So when I waited tables, and got a table full of african-americans, I tried to pass them off cause they have a tendency not to tip. Stereotypical? You betcha. Was also 100% true in my restaurant career. Sometimes sterotypes are right.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    You don't have any prejudices towards anyone? Just be honest.
    On the basis of their race? No.

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