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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    I wasn't necessarily speaking about "glass ceilings". I was referring more to the attitudes women are met with, as compared to male counterparts.
    I understand. Believe me...working in the social services (a female dominated world) you are often treated as a male that you have no business being in the field because after all, as a heterosexual white male you ARE after all the source and cause of all evil.

    And I get what you said. I mentioned...I saw a LOT of that in the military...women were often 'tolerated'...humored...and placed in roles like the tool crib, the ops offices, debrief, etc.

    I dont pretend to 'know' womens experiences...any more than I 'know' others. I know my own. And I still maintain...prejudice and discrimination is a universal practice. Wouldst that it werent.

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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post


    Huh?

    Are you trying to imply that I could have made a decision and chose not to?

    If the communities were identical, how the hell could I choose between the two?
    They weren't identical. It was a very simple question purposely written on an elementary level. Btw: This is one of the questions on a psychological evaluation for law enforcement.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    Lets pretend Catz has to make a choice between two almost identical neighborhoods to move to. But the only thing different between these two neighborhoods is the skin color. Would you pick the black neighborhood or the white neighborhood? And you have to pick either one, so which one is it going to be, Cat?

    A) White

    B) Black
    If everything was the same (including levels of crime and school quality), I'd buy wherever I could buy the most house for the money.

    Unfortunately, that isn't the case. I bought in a neighborhood here that is about 30-40% black, but had the lowest crime and the best schools in the area. Those were my primary considerations. I didn't really care what my neighbors' skin colors were (though mixed would be preferable since my kids are half white and half asian/islander.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I understand. Believe me...working in the social services (a female dominated world) you are often treated as a male that you have no business being in the field because after all, as a heterosexual white male you ARE after all the source and cause of all evil.
    I have to agree with this one (coming from a similar field). I much prefer working with cops to working with social workers.

    People who try to vilify men really annoy me.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post
    Ah, I see. Contrary to any one-drop rule ideas, I generally classify people into the races that they possess majority genetic heritage from and physically resemble the most. Hence, though African-Americans are on average four-fifths black and one-fifth white, they are simply "black" and not "biracial." And even mulattoes are incorporated into the black race because of their greater phenotypic resemblance to blacks than whites, i.e. they're not a "happy medium." That's why I tend to roll my eyes at whites who describe themselves as "biracial" or "mixed" because they claim to have a drop of Indian blood, but I understand that wasn't your intent.
    My kids are half filipino, and we use the scientific term "caucapino." We were going to use filicasian, but people found it confusing.

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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    If everything was the same (including levels of crime and school quality), I'd buy wherever I could buy the most house for the money.

    Unfortunately, that isn't the case. I bought in a neighborhood here that is about 30-40% black, but has the best schools in the area. That was my primary consideration.
    You're dodging a very simple question. If you're having trouble understanding and or answering this question then you may just be mentally incompetent.... but i believe that you are competent enough to give me an answer.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    They weren't identical. It was a very simple question purposely written on an elementary level. Btw: This is one of the questions on a psychological evaluation for law enforcement.
    Well, you said they would be identical except for skin color.

    That implies that the culture and all other things would also be identical.

    Stereotypes as to a black community being subtlety hostile to a white person entering their community would not apply, as the communities are identical - I would be welcomed, treated in a neutral manner, or treated in a hostile manner in both.

    Stereotypes about a white person being more comfortable among their own kind would not apply, as the communities are identical - I would be comfortable in both.

    So my only deciding factor would be my interest in living among a different culture, or not, and since the two are identical, it wouldn't matter which I chose.

    I suppose a dice role might be the way to go.

    Have each community head roll 4D6, and whichever gets the highest gets my entrance into their community.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    You're dodging a very simple question. If you're having trouble understanding and or answering this question then you may just be mentally incompetent.... but i believe that you are competent enough to give me an answer.
    Skin color would not be a factor for me. I live in a racially mixed area, and my basis for picking my house was purely on the basis of school test scores and crimes per capita, then affordability. I didn't know the skin colors of any of my neighbors when I bought my house, I wasn't from this area. Turns out that 3 of my ten neighbors are black. Don't really care. See it as a positive, to be frank. I want my kids to feel comfortable around people from different races and cultures. If 7 of the 10 had been black, and the area had high test scores and low crime, I'd have bought the same house.

    I don't necessarily feel more comfortable around whites than I do blacks. Or, vice versa. I feel equally comfortable in either setting.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Stereotypes as to a black community being subtlety hostile to a white person entering their community would not apply, as the communities are identical - I would be welcomed, treated in a neutral manner, or treated in a hostile manner in both.

    Stereotypes about a white person being more comfortable among their own kind would not apply, as the communities are identical - I would be comfortable in both.
    My boyfriend bought a house in a neighborhood that is 90% black and has slowly been rehabbing it. I've spent an inordinate amount of time at his house helping him with it, and his neighbors have gotten familiar with me. I don't notice a substantial difference in his neighbors, except the houses are smaller and they are less affluent. They are as friendly to me as the white neighbors in my neighborhood. I like some of them, and am not particularly friendly with others. Same as my neighborhood, basically.

    I'm not less comfortable being around blacks than I am being around whites. I've spent the bulk of my career being a minority (because I'm white) during the performance of my job responsibilities. It is, for me, a non-issue. Some people have attempted to make it an issue, but I've quickly defused that. My first real office job, during college, I was a minority, and that has basically held true for the last 20 years of my life. I am grateful to the people that I've worked with who taught me to view people as people.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 04-07-10 at 11:50 PM.

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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    When I bought my house, I looked at the same things Catz did.

    1. House affordability (inclusive of property tax, homes association, neighborhood upkeep, etc...)

    2. Area schools (to include, elementary, middle and high - their test scores overall to include making AYP and state standard of excellence awards)

    3. Overall incidents of crime and property damage reports

    I really didn't do anything to research the demographics as far as race was concerned. /shrug

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