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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Some are saying that, judging by their past experiences, the majority of persons who fit into a certain sub-group tend towards certain actions in a given situation.

    Like the one person's (or so they say) multiple negative experiences regarding the capability of female Asian drivers, and is more careful when near them due to such.

    Now, I would view that as a stereotype.

    Some might view it as sexist and racist.

    In my mind, as long as one realizes that they tend to place some people into a stereotype box, they can avoid a blanket application of such.
    I just don't see people as members of a big group and make blanket assumptions about them. Nothing in my past experiences makes me judge an entire race of people because there has been no consistent behavior in any one race of people, in my experience. I see and treat people as individuals.

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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    I not only agree, I think forming stereotypes is human nature and we can't not do it. When we see a growling dog, we back up slowly, because our past experiences with growling dogs have taught us that it could be dangerous. If we weren't able to place an individual/object into a category based off of some characteristic, we wouldn't have gotten far as a species.

    So when I waited tables, and got a table full of african-americans, I tried to pass them off cause they have a tendency not to tip. Stereotypical? You betcha. Was also 100% true in my restaurant career. Sometimes sterotypes are right.
    Before I was married, I dated a woman who worked at a TGIF. It was in an area that bordered on upper middle class white neighborhoods and one of the wealthiest Black neighborhoods in the county so it had whites and blacks of generally the same socio economic background and most attended the highly ranked public school nearby. I can testify to your experience because I was there all the time waiting for her to get off work--I usually sat in her section or at the bar (not a drinker but I was treated as family by the people who worked there). I saw time after time Black HS and college age kids stiff servers. One of the servers was a very articulate young black lady whose brother was at Harvard Law, she was going to the local medical school.

    One day a large group of black hs kids celebrating a birthday. This black server noted to me "I sure hope they don't sit in my section--I haven't made squat tonight" She said that blacks always stiff her so it was not racist. Anyway, a white server got them-they camped out for two hours, and left her about 2 dollars on a 250 dollar bill and of course filled up her whole section during the prime time of 8-10 on a friday night. They ran her ragged such as she would ask them if they needed anything and only one would say Another coke. when she brought it, another would say I need a refill and they were laughing about it

    the manager told them not to ever come back. The head one called him a Racist!!,, the black kitchen manager came out and told them in no uncertain terms to get the F out of there.

    Hate to say it but some "racism" is based on an objective basis as that Indian former editor of the Dartmouth Review noted in his book "The End of Racism" where he noted cabbies in NYC avoid black males not because of racism but because over a 5 year period almost every cabbie in NYC murdered was murdered by black males



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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I lived in Utah for 10 years, and your statement makes me wonder if you've ever been there.
    Not the point; he could have said Antarctica, or the North Pole.
    Racism exists, to deny this is "the head in the sand".
    Acknowledging its existence is the first step to "recovery".

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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Before I was married, I dated a woman who worked at a TGIF. It was in an area that bordered on upper middle class white neighborhoods and one of the wealthiest Black neighborhoods in the county so it had whites and blacks of generally the same socio economic background and most attended the highly ranked public school nearby. I can testify to your experience because I was there all the time waiting for her to get off work--I usually sat in her section or at the bar (not a drinker but I was treated as family by the people who worked there). I saw time after time Black HS and college age kids stiff servers. One of the servers was a very articulate young black lady whose brother was at Harvard Law, she was going to the local medical school.

    One day a large group of black hs kids celebrating a birthday. This black server noted to me "I sure hope they don't sit in my section--I haven't made squat tonight" She said that blacks always stiff her so it was not racist. Anyway, a white server got them-they camped out for two hours, and left her about 2 dollars on a 250 dollar bill and of course filled up her whole section during the prime time of 8-10 on a friday night. They ran her ragged such as she would ask them if they needed anything and only one would say Another coke. when she brought it, another would say I need a refill and they were laughing about it

    the manager told them not to ever come back. The head one called him a Racist!!,, the black kitchen manager came out and told them in no uncertain terms to get the F out of there.

    Hate to say it but some "racism" is based on an objective basis as that Indian former editor of the Dartmouth Review noted in his book "The End of Racism" where he noted cabbies in NYC avoid black males not because of racism but because over a 5 year period almost every cabbie in NYC murdered was murdered by black males
    Like I said, sometimes stereotypes are right! It sucks, and I wish it wasn't that way, but we form stereotypes for a reason. It was a defense mechanism back in the day and still is in a way. Like if I manage to foist a table I know isn't going to tip on to some newbie server then I get to make better money that night.

    I know there are exceptions. There always are. I just didn't come across one in my seven years of waiting tables.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Not the point; he could have said Antarctica, or the North Pole.
    Racism exists, to deny this is "the head in the sand".
    Acknowledging its existence is the first step to "recovery".
    Racism exists even in the mountains of Utah. That's my point.

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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Like I said, sometimes stereotypes are right! It sucks, and I wish it wasn't that way, but we form stereotypes for a reason. It was a defense mechanism back in the day and still is in a way. Like if I manage to foist a table I know isn't going to tip on to some newbie server then I get to make better money that night.

    I know there are exceptions. There always are. I just didn't come across one in my seven years of waiting tables.
    Well Even Jesse Jackson noted that if he was walking down a dark street one night and saw four young men coming his way he'd be relieved to find they were Jewish Boys wearing yarmulkes vs Black dudes wearing gang colors



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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    I've only encountered racism towards me once.

    I have to listen to sexist bull**** from the females in my class every day. But that's ok. They can keep the man-hate, I'll keep the extra 23% in my paycheck
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    On the basis of their race? No.
    Lets pretend Catz has to make a choice between two almost identical neighborhoods to move to. But the only thing different between these two neighborhoods is the skin color. Would you pick the black neighborhood or the white neighborhood? And you have to pick either one, so which one is it going to be, Cat?

    A) White

    B) Black
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I just don't see people as members of a big group and make blanket assumptions about them. Nothing in my past experiences makes me judge an entire race of people because there has been no consistent behavior in any one race of people, in my experience. I see and treat people as individuals.
    So, as a hypothetical, you are telling me that if:

    You, during your days of running people down a river (If memory serves, you mentioned white-water rafting?), experianced that a majority of white males of an age within 10-15 years of you (excluding those with certian religious backgrounds) tried to hit on you at some point during the trip.

    Are you saying that, given the above, you would not then form a stereotype that would lead you to expect this behavior out of any other white males within 10-15 years of your age, when transported down a river by a female of your general attractiveness?

    I think that you might.
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    Re: Have You Ever Experienced Racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    Lets pretend Catz has to make a choice between two almost identical neighborhoods to move to. But the only thing different between these two neighborhoods is the skin color. Would you pick the black neighborhood or the white neighborhood? And you have to pick either one, so which one is it going to be, Cat?

    A) White

    B) Black
    What are the slight differences you mention (as inferred by your "almost identical")?
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